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Mom says son asked Grok AI bot about soccer; told him to send nudes
- AlexandrB 11mo agoSo Grok is automatically installed in Teslas now? Can it be disabled? What an anti-feature.
- mossTechnician 11mo agoThe article at least mentions a "kids mode" (although I cannot see a reason you would need to enable a feature like this to avoid explicit, off-topic chatter), but otherwise you cannot prevent the installation of Grok, nor can you delete or disable it. Users say[0] your best option is to simply not use it, and thankfully (for now) there is no dedicated button to visually ignore. This is part of a bigger trend: newer cars are troublingly being treated like cellphones[1] by their manufacturers. Anti-features are the new norm. [0]: https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaModel3/comments/1mk0lep/turn_grok_off_or_delete/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaModel3/comments/1mk0lep/turn_g... [1]: https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/2025/10/electric-car-software-updates-tesla/684643/ https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/2025/10/electric-car-...
- tartuffe78 11mo agoA Mom's son... if only there was another word for such a person, one that would indicate age.
- Insanity 11mo agoWanted to make the same comment. The title has such poor writing it made me question the rest of the article lol.
- choult 11mo agoHN requires titles matching the original; the original title was too long for the character limit so I did my best to edit. > This mom’s son was asking Tesla’s Grok AI chatbot about soccer. It told him to send nude pics, she says
- AlexandrB 11mo agoFull headline still sucks for the same reason. "12 year old boy was asking Tesla’s Grok AI chatbot about soccer. It told him to send nude pics." would be much better IMHO. I wonder if it's phrased the way it is because of the "she says" at the end which might get the CBC off the hook legally since the whole story is based on this mom's account and no further corroboration.
- canucker2016 11mo agoYou can view the source's instagram post about this where she tries to prompt grok into repeating the request for nudes. see https://www.instagram.com/p/DP7cHrOD3ha/ https://www.instagram.com/p/DP7cHrOD3ha/ It's a creepy voice for any corporation to use for interacting with the public.
- AlexandrB 11mo agoThe whole article is pretty badly written. A sequence of one sentence paragraphs with not much connecting tissue. Jumping between quotes from the mom and little snippets of background info.
- squigz 11mo agoI guess I'm being stupid, but how exactly are you implying they should have phrased it instead? The title seems fine to me?
- thomastjeffery 11mo agoYes, but that would leave out the presence of the child's mother in the story, which is about both of them.
- 7e 11mo ago"Legacy media lies." This is xAI's default response. Talk about living in a cult. I feel sorry for the kids working there.
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- SketchySeaBeast 11mo agoYeah, just to be clear for everyone skimming, that's not Grok's response, that the response that CBC got when they asked for more information from xAI. Nothing but unreasonable and childish contempt from the company.
- dr-detroit 11mo ago[dead]
- saubeidl 11mo ago"Legacy media lies." Says the media platform run by the lying billionaire. Despicable.
- sprice 11mo ago> CBC News did not independently verify the conversation Nasser says she witnessed in her car.
- tantalor 11mo agoDoes grok save chat history?
- TheNewsIsHere 11mo agoIt would be wise to assume anything ever disclosed to xAI, Tesla, X, et al will be retained.
- Drunkfoowl 11mo ago[dead]
- fzeroracer 11mo agoI don't see a reason to believe why she'd lie. Grok in the past year had a period where it related everything to white genocide, another period claiming it was mecha hitler etc. Nothing about Grok should be given the benefit of the doubt.
- causal 11mo agoWell you're leaving out the part where they tried contacting xAI about it and: > xAI provided what appeared to be an automated reply, stating, "Legacy media lies."
- gilleain 11mo ago"Hello, yes this is the government robot ..."
- marky1991 11mo ago""I would think that there would be a warning or something that would pop up that would say, you know, 'Are you 13-plus?'"" Is that not what kids mode is for?
- SketchySeaBeast 11mo ago> According to xAI policy, Grok is "not directed" to children under 13 while teens between 13 and 17 must have their parent or legal guardian's permission to use it, and they must agree to the company's terms of service. You know, I'm pretty sure it's not cool to ask for nudes from a 13 year old even if their parents say it's OK.
- marky1991 11mo agoAre you saying that all products must be safe for children? It's not cool to chop off a 13-year-old's arm, but a chainsaw will do that all the same.
- SketchySeaBeast 11mo agoI am not saying that, but a chainsaw will not do that unsolicited. If xAI is saying it's cool to let 13 year olds use the service with parental permission (note: not supervision, permission), then they have a responsibility to behave appropriately with those 13 year olds.
- marky1991 11mo agoBut there's literally a child-safe mode, which was not activated. (I don't know the details of this mode, I know nothing other than what was told to me in the article, so it's possible that kids mode is worthless. But obviously activating that is step 1) This seems equivalent to me to taking the training wheels off a bike and then complaining when your child gets hurt.
- SketchySeaBeast 11mo ago
- everdrive 11mo agoUbiquitous internet, especially on mobile devices was a huge mistake. So what if Grok does this? Grok obviously sucks, but the kid currently has access to Google, reddit, etc and has all the inappropriate content one could imagine. I'm not claiming that "this is not a new problem, therefore we should do nothing" -- rather I'm saying the problem is ubiquitous mobile internet. Fixing Grok won't do anything useful. [edit] Also, holy heck, I didn't realize they put Grok into Teslas. One more reason to never buy this product.
- pjc50 11mo agoThe thing about companies which want to interpose their AI as mediator on the whole of the internet is that suddenly they're responsible for all of it.
- noir_lord 11mo agoYes and no. You can get away with a lot you shouldn’t when you are too big to fail and the US gov has a vested interest in not policing you for other reasons, In any sane universe Google and Meta (and more arguably Amazon and Microsoft) would have been broken apart years ago like AT&T where and standard oil many decades before that but here we are.
- alwa 11mo agoIt’s a weird account. I wonder about the persona the mom and her son chose for the chatbot. The article describes that persona, “Gork,” as “lazy male.” Is this euphemism for “4chan-dweller in the mold of its edgelord technoking”? (ETA: seems maybe so, per e.g. [0]: > ”The leaked system prompt associated with Gork reveals a scripted persona aligned with the tone of the parody account, often delivering intentionally awkward or abrasive commentary.” ) I’m not up with much in the way of culture these days, but in those circles isn’t “send nudes” kind of a filler tic? Dumb and offensive, but spoken unseriously—like a teenager seeking a rise by blurting out “fuck your mother” or something? It kind of buries its acknowledgement that the Mom in question had not switched on “kid mode” for her 12-year-old and his 10-year-old sister. That makes it a bit harder for me to fault the chatbot for, well, not behaving toward its user they way it should toward a kid. [0] https://www.testingcatalog.com/xai-tests-new-gork-voice-with-satirical-personality-on-grok/ https://www.testingcatalog.com/xai-tests-new-gork-voice-with...
- causal 11mo agoI'd rather not live in a society where we have to explicitly enable kid mode for every AI product forced onto us in order to avoid their sexual advances.
- cowlby 11mo agoWeird story, I wonder if they were in Grok NSFW. I personally like unhinged it absolutely roasts me sometimes: https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaModelY/comments/1milh1a/grok_nsfw/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaModelY/comments/1milh1a/grok_n...
- canucker2016 11mo agofrom the source's insta post, https://www.instagram.com/p/DP7cHrOD3ha/ https://www.instagram.com/p/DP7cHrOD3ha/: UPDATE: I just checked, our NSFW mode is disabled which means this is the default.
- SketchySeaBeast 11mo agoIf this is real, what sort of maladjusted weirdo wants that for a chatbot?
- dylan604 11mo agoapparently, cowlby does from a couple of comments upstream
- SketchySeaBeast 11mo agoI guess I probably shouldn't kink shame, but I really don't get it.
- isoprophlex 11mo ago> [...] shocked that it would suggest and promote false conspiracies, giving support to fantasies that have no evidence, no scientific proof, and just energizes the crazies who already are gullible to misinformation [...] Incredible the timeline we're in. Companies deliberately adding cognitive poison to their products to... accelerate the dumbing down of society? the world of idiocracy is coming for us all
- ausbah 11mo ago@grok is this true?
- canucker2016 11mo agoI'll repost my comment to a dupe of this submission: The CBC article mentions the mom's instagram post, which has an even more disturbing video - (does the grok AI speak using a creepy male voice? edit: from the CBC article - Grok has several personalities to choose from in its default setting. There’s Ara, an upbeat female; Rex, a calm male; Eve, a soothing female; Sal, a smooth male and Gork, a lazy male. Nasser’s son chose Gork. ) see https://www.instagram.com/p/DP7cHrOD3ha/ https://www.instagram.com/p/DP7cHrOD3ha/
- rsynnott 11mo agoWait, what happened to the furry?
- sd9 11mo agoAnybody concerned about "CBC News did not independently verify the conversation Nasser says she witnessed in her car" I understand. It's a wild claim that needs evidence. Watch this video It's clear that Nasser is not lying
- thw_9a83c 11mo agoHilarious. "That wasn't me. That's illegal. Unless you're role-playing this one. Maybe it was a typo. What I meant, send me a nude. Like an animal... I mean the lizards." I want this guy to defend me in court.
- keeda 11mo agoI think it said "send me a newt" (hence the lizard reference.) I am extremely curious about this. Did it think it was a convincing lie? Like, when other models dissemble, they seem to come up with much more sophisticated methods. Or is it just a mocking continuation of its edgy persona? Or was it actually "panicking"? Or did it just repeat something from its training data? Edit: from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45747699 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45747699 it seems to be option b), continuation of its edge persona.
- ml-anon 11mo agoAt least two of the cofounders of xai have committed violence or sexual offenses against women. This is on brand for them. Edit: For the downvoters who love beating up women I guess: https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-new-ai-researcher-arrested-in-domestic-violence-case-2023-4 https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-new-ai-researcher-...
- mothballed 11mo agoIf you follow the story it sounds as if they are talking about the adult soccer player (Messi) "scoring" and the chat bot wanted the nudes of Messi "scoring" (based on context). Not of the kid. Still weird, but not as weird.
- acaloiar 11mo agoAs dumb and useless as I think Grok is, I think you've identified what actually happened, which is significantly more benign than asking a 10 year old for nudes.
- rsynnott 11mo ago"My car asked my kid for nudes" sounds like something out of the Brass Eye "Paedogeddon" special, quite frankly.
- cykros 11mo agoWait, so she's admitting to letting her 12 year old use twitter, despite COPPA prohibiting it under the age of 13? Heck, this probably qualifies for the CFAA to be applied; that's unauthorized access of a computer system...
- nobody9999 11mo ago>Wait, so she's admitting to letting her 12 year old use twitter, despite COPPA prohibiting it under the age of 13? >Heck, this probably qualifies for the CFAA to be applied; that's unauthorized access of a computer system... I didn't realize that US law was binding on Canadians while in Canada. The more you know![0] [0] https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7b/bf/34/7bbf34f1a96e2f854862ee29c8c75cbe.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7b/bf/34/7bbf34f1a96e2f854862...