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No. Not having ads is the "normalest" thing. I would never pay. I would use an ad blocker, and if that does not work, I would not use the website at all. This i
by johnisgood 1y ago
No. Not having ads is the "normalest" thing. I would never pay. I would use an ad blocker, and if that does not work, I would not use the website at all. This is the "normalest" thing to do, not giving them money for using ads.
You are enabling them and paying them for using ads. How is that the "normalest" or even normal thing to do? How do you expect them to stop showing ads if not only the ads themselves work, but even the ones who don't click ads pay them for having ads (to not show them, but ultimately it is for them having ads)?
- teekert 1y agoI think you misunderstood. I'm saying The normalest thing is to offer value for value. Value for the gathered information, as money, or you let them influence you via ads. It is not normal to expect something for free. You do not have the right to someone else's productivity on your terms, you have it on theirs.
- NoMoreNicksLeft 1y agoI got this far down in the comments before I realized that this subject was such a big deal to everyone because, for them, their phones are what they use to interact with websites. It's bizarre. Last year I needed to watch a video to do a simple furnace repair, and I could not watch it on my phone... I'd have to keep going back to my desk to watch it there, and then return to do the fix. Even the laptop's difficult to do much on unless I have it plugged into the dock and the two monitors. I'm not sure when everyone and myself diverged, but it feels pretty strange.
- johnisgood 1y agoI do not watch videos on my phone either. I have never visited YouTube on my phone, for example. In fact, I rarely use my phone.
- carlosjobim 1y agoIt's been normal for thousands of years to pay for services which you use.
- johnisgood 1y agoCool, no one argued against that. I will not contribute to an ad-ridden world (whether by paying or using), but you do you.
- raw_anon_1111 1y agoYou realize Hacker News is marketing for YC right?
- johnisgood 1y agoHacker News is shoving ads down your throat? I have no idea how you could compare it to what websites are typically doing, or what YouTube is doing.
- teekert 1y agoBut, I was talking about contributing to a world with less ads… I feel like something is going wrong here.
- johnisgood 1y agoIf that is the case, then I misunderstood you.
- teekert 1y agoIf I pay I expect not to see ads. If I would, I would not pay and stop the subscription.
- johnisgood 1y agoRight. My problem is that we have to pay to not see ads (which enables them to show ads unless paid), or we do not pay and we see ads, but ultimately in either case we are paying for ads or because of ads, which means ads are going to stay here forever.