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Stallman was right.

hnarn 1y ago
He usually is, given time.
thinkingemote 1y ago
I wonder, what thing does HN think Stallman is wrong about today (and which in the future we will be proven wrong and Stallman was right).
- 334f905d22bc19 1y ago
  Well, the things that got him canceled were and are wrong obviously. But anything (i know of) software related was right
  - bfkwlfkjf 1y ago
    The "things that got him cancelled" were things he said (as opposed to things he did) and those that I've read were correct (though I'm aware I havent read everything he said on the subject).
    - spacechild1 1y ago
      He has written some very questionable things about pedophilia (from which he has since distanced himself): https://stallman.org/archives/2006-may-aug.html#05%20June%202006%20(Dutch%20paedophiles%20form%20political%20party) https://stallman.org/archives/2006-may-aug.html#05%20June%20... To be clear: this does not diminish his contributions in the field of software! His ideas about Free Software have been visionary and are as important as ever. One can be brilliant in one field and a fool in another. This is actually very common among technical people ("engineer's disease"). We cannot expect someone to be right 100% of the time.
- bfkwlfkjf 1y ago
  I haven't seen him say anything I disagree with. But we would have to discuss specifics for me to have confidence.
clcaev 1y ago
> Stallman was right. Stallman did not find an economic model that works within our business/legal environment.
- nicce 1y ago
  Current big tech is based on Stallman-inspired people using their free time to make software. But they are putting MIT lisence because ”someone” had convinced them that GPL is not really free and not socially acceptable!
- bfkwlfkjf 1y ago
  Non sequitor. He was right about what companies would do if allowed, and that's the most important thing to keep in mind.
  - keeda 1y ago
    There wasn't much foresight required on his part because companies were already doing things like this way back when. As a trivial example, patents on DRM predate the oft-cited "Right To Read" by a decade or more. Stallman just observed these trends and took an opposing stance without (to GP's point) really addressing the economic incentives and nuances involved. Maybe his biggest contribution is that his extreme stance and ensuing visibility probably helped shift the Overton window.

Stallman was right.

He usually is, given time.

I wonder, what thing does HN think Stallman is wrong about today (and which in the future we will be proven wrong and Stallman was right).

334f905d22bc19 1y ago
Well, the things that got him canceled were and are wrong obviously. But anything (i know of) software related was right
- bfkwlfkjf 1y ago
  The "things that got him cancelled" were things he said (as opposed to things he did) and those that I've read were correct (though I'm aware I havent read everything he said on the subject).
  - spacechild1 1y ago
    He has written some very questionable things about pedophilia (from which he has since distanced himself): https://stallman.org/archives/2006-may-aug.html#05%20June%202006%20(Dutch%20paedophiles%20form%20political%20party) https://stallman.org/archives/2006-may-aug.html#05%20June%20... To be clear: this does not diminish his contributions in the field of software! His ideas about Free Software have been visionary and are as important as ever. One can be brilliant in one field and a fool in another. This is actually very common among technical people ("engineer's disease"). We cannot expect someone to be right 100% of the time.
bfkwlfkjf 1y ago
I haven't seen him say anything I disagree with. But we would have to discuss specifics for me to have confidence.

clcaev 1y ago

> Stallman was right. Stallman did not find an economic model that works within our business/legal environment.

nicce 1y ago
Current big tech is based on Stallman-inspired people using their free time to make software. But they are putting MIT lisence because ”someone” had convinced them that GPL is not really free and not socially acceptable!
bfkwlfkjf 1y ago
Non sequitor. He was right about what companies would do if allowed, and that's the most important thing to keep in mind.
- keeda 1y ago
  There wasn't much foresight required on his part because companies were already doing things like this way back when. As a trivial example, patents on DRM predate the oft-cited "Right To Read" by a decade or more. Stallman just observed these trends and took an opposing stance without (to GP's point) really addressing the economic incentives and nuances involved. Maybe his biggest contribution is that his extreme stance and ensuing visibility probably helped shift the Overton window.