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I still have to install third party apps like Rectangle, LinearMouse and Middle to get a fraction of the ease of navigation I get on my Linux machines. I still

I still have to install third party apps like Rectangle, LinearMouse and Middle to get a fraction of the ease of navigation I get on my Linux machines. I still have to install a third party terminal like Kitty or Ghostty for basic, modern rendering.

didibus 1y ago
True, but I'm not sure if that's such a problem? Rectangle is great, Ghostty is great, I too install something to tweak the mouse speed/acceleration curve (don't remember which one). Do we need all these bundled in? Generally a dedicated developer can make those much better than whatever they'd do in-house. I'd say where it would be an issue is if you cannot make an app that gives you the behavior you want because the OS is missing the necessary APIs and configuration toggles needed too.
- trenchpilgrim 1y ago
  > Do we need all these bundled in? Every other OS I use does all of this built in, so yes.
  - didibus 1y ago
    Which OS?
    - trenchpilgrim 1y ago
      Windows and like 3 different Linuxes
foldr 1y ago
What’s wrong with the built in terminal app? I tried Ghostty but I found it less usable overall (e.g. you can’t easily set different themes for different windows). Terminal rendering performance has never been something I’ve noticed as being a real issue.
- trenchpilgrim 1y ago
  No splits + scrolling is a juddery mess + bad support for characters other than ASCII.
  - foldr 1y ago
    Never had any issues with scrolling or non-ASCII characters, personally. I’d use tmux for split panes if I wanted them, but I rarely do in practice. Also, the built in terminal does have functionality for placing terminal windows in different parts of the screen, so it’s quite easy to put two windows side by side. Obviously, it’s fine to prefer another terminal app. I’ve personally been quite disappointed by the much-hyped alternatives to the default.

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I still have to install third party apps like Rectangle, LinearMouse and Middle to get a fraction of the ease of navigation I get on my Linux machines. I still

by trenchpilgrim 1y ago

didibus 1y ago
True, but I'm not sure if that's such a problem? Rectangle is great, Ghostty is great, I too install something to tweak the mouse speed/acceleration curve (don't remember which one). Do we need all these bundled in? Generally a dedicated developer can make those much better than whatever they'd do in-house. I'd say where it would be an issue is if you cannot make an app that gives you the behavior you want because the OS is missing the necessary APIs and configuration toggles needed too.
- trenchpilgrim 1y ago
  > Do we need all these bundled in? Every other OS I use does all of this built in, so yes.
  - didibus 1y ago
    Which OS?
    - trenchpilgrim 1y ago
      Windows and like 3 different Linuxes
foldr 1y ago
What’s wrong with the built in terminal app? I tried Ghostty but I found it less usable overall (e.g. you can’t easily set different themes for different windows). Terminal rendering performance has never been something I’ve noticed as being a real issue.
- trenchpilgrim 1y ago
  No splits + scrolling is a juddery mess + bad support for characters other than ASCII.
  - foldr 1y ago
    Never had any issues with scrolling or non-ASCII characters, personally. I’d use tmux for split panes if I wanted them, but I rarely do in practice. Also, the built in terminal does have functionality for placing terminal windows in different parts of the screen, so it’s quite easy to put two windows side by side. Obviously, it’s fine to prefer another terminal app. I’ve personally been quite disappointed by the much-hyped alternatives to the default.