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If at all anything, Claude Code's success disproved this

by amrrs 1y ago

falcor84 1y ago
It's actually an interesting example, because unlike Warp that tries to be a CLI with AI, Claude defaults to the AI (unless you prefix with an exclamation mark). Maybe it says more about me, but I now find myself asking Claude to write for me even relatively short sed/awk invocations that would have been faster to type by hand. The uncharitable interpretation is that I'm lazy, but the charitable one I tell myself is that I don't want to context-switch and prefer to keep my working memory at the higher level problem. In any case, Claude Code is not really CLI, but rather a conversational interface.
dns_snek 1y ago
Claude Code is a Terminal User Interface, not a Command Line Interface.
- _joel 1y ago
  Well, it is if you just run claude -p "Question goes here" As that will print the answer only and exit.
  - dns_snek 1y ago
    But that's not how it's typically used, it's predominantly used in TUI mode so the popularity of CC doesn't tell us anything about popularity of the CLI.
lifthrasiir 1y ago
Claude Code is a TUI (with "text"), not a CLI (with "command line"). The very point of CC is that you can replace a command line with human-readable texts.
- donaldihunter 1y ago
  Let's not be overly reductive, Claude Code is a TUI with a CLI for all input including slash commands.
  - dns_snek 1y ago
    You may think that's pedantic but it really isn't. Half-decent TUIs are much closer to GUIs than they are to CLIs because they're interactive and don't suffer from discoverability issues like most CLIs do. The only similarity they have with CLIs is that they both run in a terminal emulator. "htop" is a TUI, "ps" is a CLI. They can both accomplish most of the same things but the user experience is completely different. With htop you're clicking on columns to sort the live-updating process list, while with "ps" you're reading the manual pages to find the right flags to sort the columns, wrapping it in a "watch" command to get it to update periodically, and piping into "head" to get the top N results (or looking for a ps flag to do the same).

If at all anything, Claude Code's success disproved this

by amrrs 1y ago

If at all anything, Claude Code's success disproved this

It's actually an interesting example, because unlike Warp that tries to be a CLI with AI, Claude defaults to the AI (unless you prefix with an exclamation mark). Maybe it says more about me, but I now find myself asking Claude to write for me even relatively short sed/awk invocations that would have been faster to type by hand. The uncharitable interpretation is that I'm lazy, but the charitable one I tell myself is that I don't want to context-switch and prefer to keep my working memory at the higher level problem. In any case, Claude Code is not really CLI, but rather a conversational interface.

dns_snek 1y ago

Claude Code is a Terminal User Interface, not a Command Line Interface.

_joel 1y ago
Well, it is if you just run claude -p "Question goes here" As that will print the answer only and exit.
- dns_snek 1y ago
  But that's not how it's typically used, it's predominantly used in TUI mode so the popularity of CC doesn't tell us anything about popularity of the CLI.

lifthrasiir 1y ago

Claude Code is a TUI (with "text"), not a CLI (with "command line"). The very point of CC is that you can replace a command line with human-readable texts.

donaldihunter 1y ago
Let's not be overly reductive, Claude Code is a TUI with a CLI for all input including slash commands.
- dns_snek 1y ago
  You may think that's pedantic but it really isn't. Half-decent TUIs are much closer to GUIs than they are to CLIs because they're interactive and don't suffer from discoverability issues like most CLIs do. The only similarity they have with CLIs is that they both run in a terminal emulator. "htop" is a TUI, "ps" is a CLI. They can both accomplish most of the same things but the user experience is completely different. With htop you're clicking on columns to sort the live-updating process list, while with "ps" you're reading the manual pages to find the right flags to sort the columns, wrapping it in a "watch" command to get it to update periodically, and piping into "head" to get the top N results (or looking for a ps flag to do the same).