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This is the way I am with hiking and biking. I genuinely enjoy them, but I have a tendency to really get into the weeds with things I'm interested in and ruinin

This is the way I am with hiking and biking. I genuinely enjoy them, but I have a tendency to really get into the weeds with things I'm interested in and ruining the fun. I purposely just go for hikes for the sake of it, and refuse to give in and buy anything other than a generic bike, even though a part of me really wants __ hardware. If I buy it, that will be the point of no return for becoming a bike nerd and I'll start caring about stuff I don't want to care about. Now computers, I've learned a million ways to hate them, and learn new ways to hate them every day. Not with bikes, though :)

grugagag 1y ago
Lucky you! You didn’t fall into that trap and just enjoy the best experience you could get without overoptimizing for it. I fell into the musical instruments trap for a bit but luckily I got out of it and play with what I have.
- heavyset_go 1y ago
  I messed up in that domain when it comes to music software, it's tweaks all the way down, amazing that it works at all. I make do with cheap MIDI controllers, but spend hours cracking VSTs I already bought so I can run them in Linux. Typing this out makes me realize its not even about the music anymore, but the tweaks. Let this be a warning
bee_rider 1y ago
Hiking and biking as your “I’ll love the inexpensive options” hobbies. Did you intentionally pick the maximum test of will or something?
- heavyset_go 1y ago
  To be honest, when I was younger, I found hardcore cyclists a bit ridiculous and never wanted to be like them. I find spending a lot of money on gear so you can essentially move around unappealing, I guess. It starts becoming about the gear, getting better gear, always wanting something new, etc. At some point it's so far abstracted from simply walking or pedaling and I just can't give a shit.
  - bee_rider 1y ago
    I think I agree. Although it is funny, everybody’s cut off point is different. I have a… it must be 30 years old by now… old road bike. But, I don’t really like riding bikes without clippy pedals. If I’m not clipped in, it just doesn’t feel right somehow. Like I’m not part of the system, just sitting on the system.
lettuceconstant 1y ago
I do the same, although my reasoning probably slightly differs. I hate the idea that I'll mangle a pastime as "primitive" as hiking or biking into some technology optimization problem. People did this stuff way back with perfectly simple gear and were entirely happy enough. Sure, I could probably be a bit faster or go on a bit longer if I had better gear. But I could also achieve that by just getting into a better shape. With this level of commitment the gear is not the limiting factor. If I can't go faster with this bike, then I don't deserve to go faster with a fancier one, god dammit. My work is very complicated and technical, so I get some satisfaction from keeping my hobbies ascetic.

grugagag 1y ago

Lucky you! You didn’t fall into that trap and just enjoy the best experience you could get without overoptimizing for it. I fell into the musical instruments trap for a bit but luckily I got out of it and play with what I have.

heavyset_go 1y ago
I messed up in that domain when it comes to music software, it's tweaks all the way down, amazing that it works at all. I make do with cheap MIDI controllers, but spend hours cracking VSTs I already bought so I can run them in Linux. Typing this out makes me realize its not even about the music anymore, but the tweaks. Let this be a warning

bee_rider 1y ago

Hiking and biking as your “I’ll love the inexpensive options” hobbies. Did you intentionally pick the maximum test of will or something?

heavyset_go 1y ago
To be honest, when I was younger, I found hardcore cyclists a bit ridiculous and never wanted to be like them. I find spending a lot of money on gear so you can essentially move around unappealing, I guess. It starts becoming about the gear, getting better gear, always wanting something new, etc. At some point it's so far abstracted from simply walking or pedaling and I just can't give a shit.
- bee_rider 1y ago
  I think I agree. Although it is funny, everybody’s cut off point is different. I have a… it must be 30 years old by now… old road bike. But, I don’t really like riding bikes without clippy pedals. If I’m not clipped in, it just doesn’t feel right somehow. Like I’m not part of the system, just sitting on the system.

lettuceconstant 1y ago

I do the same, although my reasoning probably slightly differs. I hate the idea that I'll mangle a pastime as "primitive" as hiking or biking into some technology optimization problem. People did this stuff way back with perfectly simple gear and were entirely happy enough. Sure, I could probably be a bit faster or go on a bit longer if I had better gear. But I could also achieve that by just getting into a better shape. With this level of commitment the gear is not the limiting factor. If I can't go faster with this bike, then I don't deserve to go faster with a fancier one, god dammit. My work is very complicated and technical, so I get some satisfaction from keeping my hobbies ascetic.