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I'm not saying to sell it over the counter but surely just bring a prescription would be sufficient. I see medspa clinics advertising it to men for its masculin

by Spivak 1y ago

I'm not saying to sell it over the counter but surely just bring a prescription would be sufficient. I see medspa clinics advertising it to men for its masculinizing effects so it can't be that hard to acquire.

BizarroLand 1y ago
You asked why it was a controlled substance. It's not hard to acquire. Doesn't mean that it's not a controlled substance. And in fact it is sold over the counter in other countries like Mexico. You get a "prescription" from the "on-site pharmacist" who is actually just some person who works the register.
- Spivak 1y ago
  Is that how that works?! I've always wondered what legal trickery they used since Mexico isn't listed on the WHO's list of countries who don't require Rx for antibiotics.
  - BizarroLand 1y ago
    Pretty much. I went on vacation and went into a pharmacy out of curiosity, and they had a laminated card of steroids and other drugs you could get with pre-determined prices and no medical examination required.
immibis 1y ago
Wouldn't needing a prescription be... a control?
- leoh 1y ago
  Yes, but the DEA is unrelentingly cranky and likes to tell physicians how to practice medicine despite swearing up and down that they would never, ever do that.
  - klooney 1y ago
    California used to have a medical marijuana program where access was supposed to be controlled by requiring licensed physicians to prescribe it. Turns out there's enough disgraced doctors to rubber stamp huge volumes of prescriptions, rendering the control a joke. If the DEA isn't cranky, we go back to pill mills.
    - leoh 1y ago
      Not sure what the problem is, except for the DEA again. Have you heard about how alcohol is sold?
      - klooney 1y ago
        If you want to limit the availability of a substance, you can't rely on Responsible Professionals acting as gatekeepers- too many will take the money and run.
- ranger_danger 1y ago
  When people in the (US at least) healthcare industry use the word "control" they are specifically referring to the well-defined "controlled substances". In the context of the legally defined controlled substances or "scheduled drugs", no, needing a prescription does not automatically mean it is a controlled drug. Is a prescription inherently a type of 'control' against who can access certain drugs? Sure, but I don't think anyone was arguing that.

by Spivak 1y ago

BizarroLand 1y ago

You asked why it was a controlled substance. It's not hard to acquire. Doesn't mean that it's not a controlled substance. And in fact it is sold over the counter in other countries like Mexico. You get a "prescription" from the "on-site pharmacist" who is actually just some person who works the register.

Spivak 1y ago
Is that how that works?! I've always wondered what legal trickery they used since Mexico isn't listed on the WHO's list of countries who don't require Rx for antibiotics.
- BizarroLand 1y ago
  Pretty much. I went on vacation and went into a pharmacy out of curiosity, and they had a laminated card of steroids and other drugs you could get with pre-determined prices and no medical examination required.

immibis 1y ago

Wouldn't needing a prescription be... a control?

leoh 1y ago
Yes, but the DEA is unrelentingly cranky and likes to tell physicians how to practice medicine despite swearing up and down that they would never, ever do that.
- klooney 1y ago
  California used to have a medical marijuana program where access was supposed to be controlled by requiring licensed physicians to prescribe it. Turns out there's enough disgraced doctors to rubber stamp huge volumes of prescriptions, rendering the control a joke. If the DEA isn't cranky, we go back to pill mills.
  - leoh 1y ago
    Not sure what the problem is, except for the DEA again. Have you heard about how alcohol is sold?
    - klooney 1y ago
      If you want to limit the availability of a substance, you can't rely on Responsible Professionals acting as gatekeepers- too many will take the money and run.
ranger_danger 1y ago
When people in the (US at least) healthcare industry use the word "control" they are specifically referring to the well-defined "controlled substances". In the context of the legally defined controlled substances or "scheduled drugs", no, needing a prescription does not automatically mean it is a controlled drug. Is a prescription inherently a type of 'control' against who can access certain drugs? Sure, but I don't think anyone was arguing that.