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Not me: I wanted Apple’s software division to innovate like its hardware division. Extra power with nothing to use it on except more and more docker containers

by davedx 1y ago

Not me: I wanted Apple’s software division to innovate like its hardware division. Extra power with nothing to use it on except more and more docker containers isn’t compelling to me. I’ve not upgraded my M1 Macbook Pro and don’t plan to

Herring 1y ago
Honestly I'd be happy if they just made it stop lagging when I switch between multiple desktops in mission control. I spend most of my time in 3d party apps anyway. They recently added that lag I think with the liquid glass.
- hexbin010 1y ago
  > They recently added that lag They tend to add lag in major OS releases. Gets people to consider refreshing their hardware. Just by sheer coincidence, they have a new model out this year! :-)
  - Herring 1y ago
    Yeah so it seems. Well I have plenty of desktop Linux experience so it's not that hard to pop right back.
retired_account 1y ago
I think Final Cut and maybe Logic make good use of the new silicon features. I’m rather happy I don’t have to upgrade from my M1. More performance is nice, but making it the baseline to run an OS would just be silly.
- Forgeties79 1y ago
  It’s actually very sad to see the state final cut is in. It’s a perfectly competent NLE for speed editing and has some solid features, but they had a real piece of software on their hands for years and just kind of sat around doing nothing from 2018 or so onward. I guess it just isn’t generating enough revenue to warrant the attention it deserves. It was my workhorse for a solid decade, I passionately defended FCPX because it was truly excellent after they got it to a good place 12-18mo in. Their native multicam and audio sync blew premiere/plural eyes out of the water for years. But now it’s just so…meh I can’t imagine leaving Resolve to go back even though I still wayyyy prefer the FCPX UI.
- KolibriFly 1y ago
  Yep, super optimized, super responsive, and they feel like they justify the hardware gains
didibus 1y ago
How much innovation is there to do in the OS at this point? You can install applications and they can innovate. Maybe you need AI, but maybe you just need some AI agent app that uses AppleScript under the hood. I'd rather buttery smooth, secure, fast, no bugs, let me do my work.
- bigyabai 1y ago
  > How much innovation is there to do in the OS at this point? 1) Sign Nvidia's drivers again, at least for compute (there's no excuse) 2) Implement Vulkan 1.2 compliance (even Asahi did it, c'mon) 3) Stop using notifications to send me advertisements 3.1) Stop using native apps to display advertisement modals 4) Do not install subscription services on my machine by-default 5) Give macOS a "developer mode" that's at-least as good as WSL2 (if they won't ship GNU utils) 6) Document the APFS filesystem so the primary volume isn't inscrutable, akin to what M$ did for NTFS If they're trying to get me to switch off Linux, those would be a nice start. I don't think any of that is too much to ask from a premium platform, but maybe my expectations are maligned.
  - runjake 1y ago
    > 5) Give macOS a "developer mode" that's at-least as good as WSL2 (if they won't ship GNU utils) The de facto answer is Homebrew — even internally at Apple. They just can’t publicly say it without liability issues. > If they're trying to get me to switch off Linux It’s important to know that Apple is not trying to get you to switch from Linux. Converting “UNIX workstation” people was an effort of theirs circa 2001 but that marketing campaign is long over with. Their targets are consumer, prosumers, and media/influencer people. They give app developers just enough attention to keep their App Store revenue healthy. Plan your long-term computing needs accordingly. You’ll see what I mean in the next 12-24 months.
  - didibus 1y ago
    I don't know, I was using WSL2 on Windows before I switched to MacOS, WSL2 gets annoying to be honest. You're better off using MacOS built native unix binaries and a VM or docker. I never noticed ads in notifications, unlike with Windows which is ads infested everywhere now. I agree that better GPU support would be nice, but also better Metal support in common open source would be nice, since I'm a laptop user.
Analemma_ 1y ago
I don't think anyone should upgrade if they're happy, but I also think faster chips do have real-world benefits that tend not to be appreciated by people who aren't valuing their time enough. I replaced my M1 MBP with an M4 earlier this year, and it's had a couple real-world benefits: - builds are noticeably faster on later chips as multicore performance has increased a lot. When I replaced my M1 MBP with an M4, builds in both Xcode, cargo and LaTeX (I'll switch to Typst one of these days, but haven't yet) took about 60% of the time they had previously. That adds up to real productivity gains - when running e.g. qwen3 on LM Studio, I was getting 3-5 tok/s on the M1 and 10-15 on the M4, which to me at least crosses the fuzzy barrier between "interesting toy to tinker with sometimes" and "can actually use for real work"
makeitdouble 1y ago
At this point does the hardware division really innovate that much ? There is significant improvement from the M4 to the M5, but how much of it is comes from TSMC and how much from Apple ? They have exclusivity on the latest processes, so it's harder to compare with what Qualcomm or AMD is doing for instance, but right now Strix Halo is basically on par with the M3~4 developped on the same node density. On the other hardware parts, form factor has mostly stagnated, and the last big jump was the Vision Pro...
- gsibble 1y ago
  I still think the future for the Vision Pro is very bright. I think this version is more to get developers working on applications for it. Spatial computing is a fascinating idea.
  - makeitdouble 1y ago
    It has a reasonable probability to get somewhere(that would require a lot of redesign, but they have th money to do so), but to be honest I wouldn't be happy with the most restrictive and closed ecosystem winning again in a new field. If it was by design excellence and truly providing a better proposition it would sweeten the pill, but as of now it would be only because the way better products are from a company everyone hates. In a weird way, Meta has been good at balancing hardware lockdown, and I'd see a better future with them leading the pack and allowing for better alternatives to come up along the way. Basically the same way the Quest allowed for exploration, and extended the PCVR market enough for it to survive up to this point. That wouldn't happen with Apple domining the field.
  - adastra22 1y ago
    In my own lived experience, every person I have met IRL who is dismissive of the Vision Pro has never actually used it seriously for more than a handful of minutes. People I know who have swear by spatial computing being the next UI/UX revolution. I own an AVP, and I agree. Now I bought it secondhand for half the price, so I acknowledge that necessarily means there is at least one counterparty out there who disagrees. Using the AVP for one work day, once I got the right fit and optical inserts, was such an eye opener. It’s like using an ultraportable laptop after living an entire life with large CRT monitors & desktop rigs tied to an actual desk. An experience, btw, which also lived through. It just radially opened my eyes to fresh new possibilities and interaction mechanisms I never before thought possible. But at $3.5k? No sane company exec could have been serious in thinking that would take off.
jltsiren 1y ago
They are already innovating more than they can deliver. While Apple's hardware quality is usually good, their quality standards are much lower on the software side.
- Liftyee 1y ago
  This is surprising to me. I always thought Apple was ahead on the UX side of software with their attention to detail. Though it's been a while since their hardware design flaws, and their software has had new issues. Even Louis Rossmann has mostly stopped talking about Apple since their repairability changes (or due to having bigger fish to fry).
  - AuthAuth 1y ago
    Their hardware used to be atrocious and software was the only thing they would get praised on. Now they've gotten lazy in the software department and outstanding in the hardware department. Side note, rossmann has stopped talking about Apple because he is not longer focused on Apple repair and is turning his attention to other causes not because of apple's "repairability" changes which are still a token gesture.
    - willtemperley 1y ago
      They still support x86 on Tahoe. I wonder if macOS 27 will see some changes now they can finally be rid of x86 baggage.
  - riehwvfbk 1y ago
    Apple UX: "intuitive" features you have to discover via some random video reel. Of course you have to drag your messages sideways to see when they were sent, that's Good UX! Sprinkle with crashes and bugs that are never fixed and charge a premium.
    - eastbound 1y ago
      Apple UX: A beginner on a new Mac can’t right-click and copy, because there is a right-click but it isn’t active by default. Go to Spotlight -> Type “Settings” -> Locate the settings -> In settings, go to Accessibility -> Wait no, it’s Mouse -> Gestures -> Activate the right-click. ^ That’s the experience for beginners. That screen should be in the installation wizard if Apple wants to make it optional. “Customize your mouse gestures”.
gsibble 1y ago
How about: - 5G connectivity - WiFi 7 - Tandem OLED Screen - Better webcam - FaceID - Cheaper RAM (RAM is more important to me these days than CPU speed) - More ports - Better/cheaper monitors - Make a proper tablet OS - Maybe a touchscreen but I really don't want one just to get started
- lynndotpy 1y ago
  As someone who hates Apple's facial recognition implementation, I'm eagerly awaiting the day they ditch TouchID for FaceID. That'll be the year for me to upgrade to a high-spec laptop on the last generation with TouchID.
  - adastra22 1y ago
    Honest question, why? Sounds like you have a technical issue with it. I’m not a fan of FaceID for digital privacy reasons, but the reliability and ease of use eventually forced me to give in. I don’t think I’ve encountered anyone who hates Apple’s specific implementation of facial recognition.
    - lynndotpy 1y ago
      First is that TouchID is faster and more consistent than FaceID in my experience, but also ergonomics and presence. With a phone with a fingerprint scanner, I can have it unlocked as I pull it out of my pocket, and I don't have to bury my face in my phone, e.g. to pay. I can unlock it while it's sitting on a desk. Similarly with the fingerprint scanner on the Macbooks, I don't need to have my face squarely in the center in front of the screen. It's a very bad experience unlocking an iPad Pro with FaceID, but I have no problems experience unlocking an iPad Air with TouchID. But I think I'm a minority here, so at least I can save some money when the long-rumored FaceID Macbook comes to fruition :D
- the_pwner224 1y ago
  Price gouging on RAM is a very intentional decision by Apple to charge 8x market rate for it. Same for storage, you can get a blazing fast 4 TB NVMe SSD for just a few hundred bucks vs $2k or whatever Apple extorts from you.
fragmede 1y ago
I upgraded to the M4 for more ram and more GPU for local LLMs so I'm not sending all my shit to OpenAI, but it's not for everybody.
Sharlin 1y ago
I'd much prefer they focus on fixing their existing software quality problems. No innovation needed, just boring old software maintenance and design work.
- varenc 1y ago
  They need a "Snow Leopard-style" release. This was the macOS version that came after Leopard and it was explicitly a release with no new features. It just focused on performance, efficiency, and reducing overall memory usage. Famously Apple even advertised it as having "zero new features". Recent macOS releases feel like they're going in the opposite direction. Really wish their next release would be more like Snow Leopard.
  - adastra22 1y ago
    AFAICT from the marketing, macOS 26 didn’t come with any new features. [I get your point; I just refuse to consider to a ridiculous reskin no one asked for to be a “feature.”]
    - varenc 1y ago
      Wow I didn't realize that. Though since the re-skin caused a huge number of popular Electron apps to have big performance issues... it didn't seem that performance/optimization focused to me.
      - adastra22 1y ago
        I’m being sarcastic of course - this isn’t a Snow Leopard release and it wasn’t marketed as such. There are in fact new features in v26: live translations and a revamped Spotlight. But these are treated almost as footnotes, with most of the advertising devoted to Liquid Glass: https://www.apple.com/os/macos/ https://www.apple.com/os/macos/ Worth noting Snow Leopard also had new features, most notably the App Store. But it was marketed as a performance upgrade. v26 / Tahoe’s new features (excluding the UI reskin) are comparably small. But instead it is a massive slowdown & bloat release :(
adamthegoalie 1y ago
Now you can run LLMs beside your Docker containers!
jdgoesmarching 1y ago
You want Apple to invent reasons for you to need a more powerful computer? I could understand this argument for the iPad, but this is a weird complaint for Macs. Play a video game, use local LLMs, or get into video editing?
- johnnyanmac 1y ago
  Never owned an apple device myself, but honestly I just want the existing tech to start coming down in cost. I grabbed a fordable this year and it's great. It was very much not worth $2200 though (and that was before tarriffs), so I grabbed a used 2YO model for $800 or so. I'm already salavating at the thought of a fordable tablet in any form. But not at the thought of paying $3000 for one with current pricing.
  - swores 1y ago
    Am I right to assume those typos meant to say "foldable"?
    - johnnyanmac 1y ago
      Yes, my apologies. In an attempt to be "boring" I've also sworn off Swiftkey (owend under Microsoft which of course was now trying to push Copilot on me that way). There's definitely an adjustment off of using a new keyboard after a decade.
      - swores 1y ago
        No worries, easy mistake to make! (And I'm probably one of the few people for whom it wasn't immediately obvious what you intended.)
- davedx 1y ago
  I'm just saying I need a real reason to upgrade beyond "benchmarks make me feel good". I can run local LLM's fine on my M1 Pro from 2021. I play games on it too. Why would I spend multiple thousands on a M(N) Macbook if there's no real reason to? It's not like when I upgraded from a 386DX to a Pentium. I have a similar argument for phones right now. There are some AI-related reasons to upgrade, but there's not really a clear killer app yet besides frontier model chat apps. Why should I spend thousands of euros on an upgrade when I don't get anything significantly different for it?
pjmlp 1y ago
I rather that they stop inovating beyond the team skills budget.
KolibriFly 1y ago
There's so much untapped potential with these chips
TheCapeGreek 1y ago
I don't even want more docker containers - I want to be able to run the same containers with much less overhead on the system. Hoping their new native containerisation plays that out soon.

by davedx 1y ago

Herring 1y ago

Honestly I'd be happy if they just made it stop lagging when I switch between multiple desktops in mission control. I spend most of my time in 3d party apps anyway. They recently added that lag I think with the liquid glass.

hexbin010 1y ago
> They recently added that lag They tend to add lag in major OS releases. Gets people to consider refreshing their hardware. Just by sheer coincidence, they have a new model out this year! :-)
- Herring 1y ago
  Yeah so it seems. Well I have plenty of desktop Linux experience so it's not that hard to pop right back.

retired_account 1y ago

I think Final Cut and maybe Logic make good use of the new silicon features. I’m rather happy I don’t have to upgrade from my M1. More performance is nice, but making it the baseline to run an OS would just be silly.

Forgeties79 1y ago
It’s actually very sad to see the state final cut is in. It’s a perfectly competent NLE for speed editing and has some solid features, but they had a real piece of software on their hands for years and just kind of sat around doing nothing from 2018 or so onward. I guess it just isn’t generating enough revenue to warrant the attention it deserves. It was my workhorse for a solid decade, I passionately defended FCPX because it was truly excellent after they got it to a good place 12-18mo in. Their native multicam and audio sync blew premiere/plural eyes out of the water for years. But now it’s just so…meh I can’t imagine leaving Resolve to go back even though I still wayyyy prefer the FCPX UI.
KolibriFly 1y ago
Yep, super optimized, super responsive, and they feel like they justify the hardware gains

didibus 1y ago

How much innovation is there to do in the OS at this point? You can install applications and they can innovate. Maybe you need AI, but maybe you just need some AI agent app that uses AppleScript under the hood. I'd rather buttery smooth, secure, fast, no bugs, let me do my work.

bigyabai 1y ago
> How much innovation is there to do in the OS at this point? 1) Sign Nvidia's drivers again, at least for compute (there's no excuse) 2) Implement Vulkan 1.2 compliance (even Asahi did it, c'mon) 3) Stop using notifications to send me advertisements 3.1) Stop using native apps to display advertisement modals 4) Do not install subscription services on my machine by-default 5) Give macOS a "developer mode" that's at-least as good as WSL2 (if they won't ship GNU utils) 6) Document the APFS filesystem so the primary volume isn't inscrutable, akin to what M$ did for NTFS If they're trying to get me to switch off Linux, those would be a nice start. I don't think any of that is too much to ask from a premium platform, but maybe my expectations are maligned.
- runjake 1y ago
  > 5) Give macOS a "developer mode" that's at-least as good as WSL2 (if they won't ship GNU utils) The de facto answer is Homebrew — even internally at Apple. They just can’t publicly say it without liability issues. > If they're trying to get me to switch off Linux It’s important to know that Apple is not trying to get you to switch from Linux. Converting “UNIX workstation” people was an effort of theirs circa 2001 but that marketing campaign is long over with. Their targets are consumer, prosumers, and media/influencer people. They give app developers just enough attention to keep their App Store revenue healthy. Plan your long-term computing needs accordingly. You’ll see what I mean in the next 12-24 months.
- didibus 1y ago
  I don't know, I was using WSL2 on Windows before I switched to MacOS, WSL2 gets annoying to be honest. You're better off using MacOS built native unix binaries and a VM or docker. I never noticed ads in notifications, unlike with Windows which is ads infested everywhere now. I agree that better GPU support would be nice, but also better Metal support in common open source would be nice, since I'm a laptop user.

Analemma_ 1y ago

I don't think anyone should upgrade if they're happy, but I also think faster chips do have real-world benefits that tend not to be appreciated by people who aren't valuing their time enough. I replaced my M1 MBP with an M4 earlier this year, and it's had a couple real-world benefits: - builds are noticeably faster on later chips as multicore performance has increased a lot. When I replaced my M1 MBP with an M4, builds in both Xcode, cargo and LaTeX (I'll switch to Typst one of these days, but haven't yet) took about 60% of the time they had previously. That adds up to real productivity gains - when running e.g. qwen3 on LM Studio, I was getting 3-5 tok/s on the M1 and 10-15 on the M4, which to me at least crosses the fuzzy barrier between "interesting toy to tinker with sometimes" and "can actually use for real work"

makeitdouble 1y ago

At this point does the hardware division really innovate that much ? There is significant improvement from the M4 to the M5, but how much of it is comes from TSMC and how much from Apple ? They have exclusivity on the latest processes, so it's harder to compare with what Qualcomm or AMD is doing for instance, but right now Strix Halo is basically on par with the M3~4 developped on the same node density. On the other hardware parts, form factor has mostly stagnated, and the last big jump was the Vision Pro...

gsibble 1y ago
I still think the future for the Vision Pro is very bright. I think this version is more to get developers working on applications for it. Spatial computing is a fascinating idea.
- makeitdouble 1y ago
  It has a reasonable probability to get somewhere(that would require a lot of redesign, but they have th money to do so), but to be honest I wouldn't be happy with the most restrictive and closed ecosystem winning again in a new field. If it was by design excellence and truly providing a better proposition it would sweeten the pill, but as of now it would be only because the way better products are from a company everyone hates. In a weird way, Meta has been good at balancing hardware lockdown, and I'd see a better future with them leading the pack and allowing for better alternatives to come up along the way. Basically the same way the Quest allowed for exploration, and extended the PCVR market enough for it to survive up to this point. That wouldn't happen with Apple domining the field.
- adastra22 1y ago
  In my own lived experience, every person I have met IRL who is dismissive of the Vision Pro has never actually used it seriously for more than a handful of minutes. People I know who have swear by spatial computing being the next UI/UX revolution. I own an AVP, and I agree. Now I bought it secondhand for half the price, so I acknowledge that necessarily means there is at least one counterparty out there who disagrees. Using the AVP for one work day, once I got the right fit and optical inserts, was such an eye opener. It’s like using an ultraportable laptop after living an entire life with large CRT monitors & desktop rigs tied to an actual desk. An experience, btw, which also lived through. It just radially opened my eyes to fresh new possibilities and interaction mechanisms I never before thought possible. But at $3.5k? No sane company exec could have been serious in thinking that would take off.

jltsiren 1y ago

They are already innovating more than they can deliver. While Apple's hardware quality is usually good, their quality standards are much lower on the software side.

Liftyee 1y ago
This is surprising to me. I always thought Apple was ahead on the UX side of software with their attention to detail. Though it's been a while since their hardware design flaws, and their software has had new issues. Even Louis Rossmann has mostly stopped talking about Apple since their repairability changes (or due to having bigger fish to fry).
- AuthAuth 1y ago
  Their hardware used to be atrocious and software was the only thing they would get praised on. Now they've gotten lazy in the software department and outstanding in the hardware department. Side note, rossmann has stopped talking about Apple because he is not longer focused on Apple repair and is turning his attention to other causes not because of apple's "repairability" changes which are still a token gesture.
  - willtemperley 1y ago
    They still support x86 on Tahoe. I wonder if macOS 27 will see some changes now they can finally be rid of x86 baggage.
- riehwvfbk 1y ago
  Apple UX: "intuitive" features you have to discover via some random video reel. Of course you have to drag your messages sideways to see when they were sent, that's Good UX! Sprinkle with crashes and bugs that are never fixed and charge a premium.
  - eastbound 1y ago
    Apple UX: A beginner on a new Mac can’t right-click and copy, because there is a right-click but it isn’t active by default. Go to Spotlight -> Type “Settings” -> Locate the settings -> In settings, go to Accessibility -> Wait no, it’s Mouse -> Gestures -> Activate the right-click. ^ That’s the experience for beginners. That screen should be in the installation wizard if Apple wants to make it optional. “Customize your mouse gestures”.

gsibble 1y ago

How about: - 5G connectivity - WiFi 7 - Tandem OLED Screen - Better webcam - FaceID - Cheaper RAM (RAM is more important to me these days than CPU speed) - More ports - Better/cheaper monitors - Make a proper tablet OS - Maybe a touchscreen but I really don't want one just to get started

lynndotpy 1y ago
As someone who hates Apple's facial recognition implementation, I'm eagerly awaiting the day they ditch TouchID for FaceID. That'll be the year for me to upgrade to a high-spec laptop on the last generation with TouchID.
- adastra22 1y ago
  Honest question, why? Sounds like you have a technical issue with it. I’m not a fan of FaceID for digital privacy reasons, but the reliability and ease of use eventually forced me to give in. I don’t think I’ve encountered anyone who hates Apple’s specific implementation of facial recognition.
  - lynndotpy 1y ago
    First is that TouchID is faster and more consistent than FaceID in my experience, but also ergonomics and presence. With a phone with a fingerprint scanner, I can have it unlocked as I pull it out of my pocket, and I don't have to bury my face in my phone, e.g. to pay. I can unlock it while it's sitting on a desk. Similarly with the fingerprint scanner on the Macbooks, I don't need to have my face squarely in the center in front of the screen. It's a very bad experience unlocking an iPad Pro with FaceID, but I have no problems experience unlocking an iPad Air with TouchID. But I think I'm a minority here, so at least I can save some money when the long-rumored FaceID Macbook comes to fruition :D
the_pwner224 1y ago
Price gouging on RAM is a very intentional decision by Apple to charge 8x market rate for it. Same for storage, you can get a blazing fast 4 TB NVMe SSD for just a few hundred bucks vs $2k or whatever Apple extorts from you.

fragmede 1y ago

I upgraded to the M4 for more ram and more GPU for local LLMs so I'm not sending all my shit to OpenAI, but it's not for everybody.

Sharlin 1y ago

I'd much prefer they focus on fixing their existing software quality problems. No innovation needed, just boring old software maintenance and design work.

varenc 1y ago
They need a "Snow Leopard-style" release. This was the macOS version that came after Leopard and it was explicitly a release with no new features. It just focused on performance, efficiency, and reducing overall memory usage. Famously Apple even advertised it as having "zero new features". Recent macOS releases feel like they're going in the opposite direction. Really wish their next release would be more like Snow Leopard.
- adastra22 1y ago
  AFAICT from the marketing, macOS 26 didn’t come with any new features. [I get your point; I just refuse to consider to a ridiculous reskin no one asked for to be a “feature.”]
  - varenc 1y ago
    Wow I didn't realize that. Though since the re-skin caused a huge number of popular Electron apps to have big performance issues... it didn't seem that performance/optimization focused to me.
    - adastra22 1y ago
      I’m being sarcastic of course - this isn’t a Snow Leopard release and it wasn’t marketed as such. There are in fact new features in v26: live translations and a revamped Spotlight. But these are treated almost as footnotes, with most of the advertising devoted to Liquid Glass: https://www.apple.com/os/macos/ https://www.apple.com/os/macos/ Worth noting Snow Leopard also had new features, most notably the App Store. But it was marketed as a performance upgrade. v26 / Tahoe’s new features (excluding the UI reskin) are comparably small. But instead it is a massive slowdown & bloat release :(

adamthegoalie 1y ago

Now you can run LLMs beside your Docker containers!

jdgoesmarching 1y ago

You want Apple to invent reasons for you to need a more powerful computer? I could understand this argument for the iPad, but this is a weird complaint for Macs. Play a video game, use local LLMs, or get into video editing?

johnnyanmac 1y ago
Never owned an apple device myself, but honestly I just want the existing tech to start coming down in cost. I grabbed a fordable this year and it's great. It was very much not worth $2200 though (and that was before tarriffs), so I grabbed a used 2YO model for $800 or so. I'm already salavating at the thought of a fordable tablet in any form. But not at the thought of paying $3000 for one with current pricing.
- swores 1y ago
  Am I right to assume those typos meant to say "foldable"?
  - johnnyanmac 1y ago
    Yes, my apologies. In an attempt to be "boring" I've also sworn off Swiftkey (owend under Microsoft which of course was now trying to push Copilot on me that way). There's definitely an adjustment off of using a new keyboard after a decade.
    - swores 1y ago
      No worries, easy mistake to make! (And I'm probably one of the few people for whom it wasn't immediately obvious what you intended.)
davedx 1y ago
I'm just saying I need a real reason to upgrade beyond "benchmarks make me feel good". I can run local LLM's fine on my M1 Pro from 2021. I play games on it too. Why would I spend multiple thousands on a M(N) Macbook if there's no real reason to? It's not like when I upgraded from a 386DX to a Pentium. I have a similar argument for phones right now. There are some AI-related reasons to upgrade, but there's not really a clear killer app yet besides frontier model chat apps. Why should I spend thousands of euros on an upgrade when I don't get anything significantly different for it?

pjmlp 1y ago

I rather that they stop inovating beyond the team skills budget.

KolibriFly 1y ago

There's so much untapped potential with these chips

TheCapeGreek 1y ago

I don't even want more docker containers - I want to be able to run the same containers with much less overhead on the system. Hoping their new native containerisation plays that out soon.