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Their teleoperator position from 3-11 PM, M-F, pays between $22 and $31 an hour with benefits and is onsite in Palo Alto.[1] I'll be curious if they move those

Their teleoperator position from 3-11 PM, M-F, pays between $22 and $31 an hour with benefits and is onsite in Palo Alto.[1] I'll be curious if they move those positions to a lower cost-of-living area as they scale up. 1: https://1x.recruitee.com/o/robot-operator https://1x.recruitee.com/o/robot-operator

thw_9a83c 1y ago
I'm wondering about teleoperation. Many housekeeping activities require an incredible level of attention to detail, precision, and real-time awareness. For example, consider manual dishwashing, small sewing jobs, knife operation, or repotting houseplants. Even if latency were not an issue, the operator would need to excel at all these tasks. By the way, we've had robotic surgery [1] for years. These machines are very expensive, and it takes months, if not years, to learn to operate them flawlessly. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robotic_surgery https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robotic_surgery
- davidlee1435 11mo ago
  You don't need flawless to empty a dishwasher, which simultaneously drives down cost and time
  - thw_9a83c 11mo ago
    > You don't need flawless to empty a dishwasher That really depends on how demanding you are. For example, I prefer to thoroughly wipe the dishes after taking them out of the dishwasher (if necessary). This is a fairly demanding task in terms of motor skills. I suppose we all have similar discrepancies from what is considered normal or good enough.
  - Hamuko 11mo ago
    I mean, I sorta do need that. If a dishwasher-emptying robot drops my favourite tea mug while doing it, that will be quite a significant negative against it.
fainpul 1y ago
This is the next gig job. Poor people working as servants for rich people halfway across the world.
- Taikonerd 1y ago
  Oh, this was the plot of the Mexican sci-fi movie The Sleep Dealer: [0] From Wikipedia: "A fortified wall has ended unauthorized Mexico-US immigration, but migrant workers are replaced by robots, remotely controlled by the same class of would-be emigrants." [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbJGQl-dJ6c&pp=ygUUc2xlZXAgZGVhbGVyIHRyYWlsZXI%3D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbJGQl-dJ6c&pp=ygUUc2xlZXAgZ...
- Rebelgecko 1y ago
  Latency is too bad for that, most of these robot companies don't use poor people more than 1/5 of the world away
  - dyauspitr 1y ago
    Nonsense, Starlink’s latency is like 100 to 200 ms round-trip between China and the United States
    - cuu508 1y ago
      Add on top of that the latency of the operator's equipment and the latency of the robot itself, and tasks like putting dishes in the dishwasher could get quite challenging
      - telescopeh 1y ago
        Considering what type of sensors that would need to be are already on these robots, would it not be possible to teleoperate within VR? So the motion and control can be more fulid but there is a lag before it is applied to real robot. Like how mosh[0] works. [0] https://mosh.org https://mosh.org

thw_9a83c 1y ago

I'm wondering about teleoperation. Many housekeeping activities require an incredible level of attention to detail, precision, and real-time awareness. For example, consider manual dishwashing, small sewing jobs, knife operation, or repotting houseplants. Even if latency were not an issue, the operator would need to excel at all these tasks. By the way, we've had robotic surgery [1] for years. These machines are very expensive, and it takes months, if not years, to learn to operate them flawlessly. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robotic_surgery https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robotic_surgery

davidlee1435 11mo ago
You don't need flawless to empty a dishwasher, which simultaneously drives down cost and time
- thw_9a83c 11mo ago
  > You don't need flawless to empty a dishwasher That really depends on how demanding you are. For example, I prefer to thoroughly wipe the dishes after taking them out of the dishwasher (if necessary). This is a fairly demanding task in terms of motor skills. I suppose we all have similar discrepancies from what is considered normal or good enough.
- Hamuko 11mo ago
  I mean, I sorta do need that. If a dishwasher-emptying robot drops my favourite tea mug while doing it, that will be quite a significant negative against it.

fainpul 1y ago

This is the next gig job. Poor people working as servants for rich people halfway across the world.

Taikonerd 1y ago
Oh, this was the plot of the Mexican sci-fi movie The Sleep Dealer: [0] From Wikipedia: "A fortified wall has ended unauthorized Mexico-US immigration, but migrant workers are replaced by robots, remotely controlled by the same class of would-be emigrants." [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbJGQl-dJ6c&pp=ygUUc2xlZXAgZGVhbGVyIHRyYWlsZXI%3D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbJGQl-dJ6c&pp=ygUUc2xlZXAgZ...
Rebelgecko 1y ago
Latency is too bad for that, most of these robot companies don't use poor people more than 1/5 of the world away
- dyauspitr 1y ago
  Nonsense, Starlink’s latency is like 100 to 200 ms round-trip between China and the United States
  - cuu508 1y ago
    Add on top of that the latency of the operator's equipment and the latency of the robot itself, and tasks like putting dishes in the dishwasher could get quite challenging
    - telescopeh 1y ago
      Considering what type of sensors that would need to be are already on these robots, would it not be possible to teleoperate within VR? So the motion and control can be more fulid but there is a lag before it is applied to real robot. Like how mosh[0] works. [0] https://mosh.org https://mosh.org