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Can you explain how that applies in this specific case? Because I can't come up with a scenario where you suggesting corrections to Grokipedia does any good. I

by Timon3 1y ago

Can you explain how that applies in this specific case? Because I can't come up with a scenario where you suggesting corrections to Grokipedia does any good. If you're correcting a lie that they actively want to spread (e.g. the "White Genocide" lie) they obviously won't accept your correction. If you're correcting a lie that they don't care about (hypothetical example: "ripe strawberries are blue") they might accept your correction, but that makes it less likely that an uninformed visitor will see through their lies. So the best case scenario is that literally nothing happens, and the worst case one is that you're indirectly helping their cause. What am I missing?

tstrimple 1y ago
Let me rephrase. The type of person who would submit "corrections" to grokopedia are the types of people who are typically interested in supporting its ideological outcomes. Because they have close enough to the same world-views. The same types of people who say female instead of women outside of a medical context or complain all the time about wokeness invading their favorite media. Someone who suggests that reporting errors to grokopedia would do any good are firmly in the camp that believes in the garbage it's trying to perpetuate. That's why they support it and why they think others should submit corrections. They know that this is being built with an explicitly partisan bias, but also know liberal folk are super weak to certain types of attacks. Attacks like "be fair" and "you can submit feedback". They are explicitly playing on liberal weaknesses all while leaning into the blatantly false representation of history. They will say "you can't judge it since you haven't provided feedback to help correct it" but that was never their intention and they just say those things because it confuses liberals. And I know I've overused "liberals" here. That's absolutely my bias slipping in. But they are the most credulous folks who will constantly try to reach across the aisle to blatant bad faith actors. If there's a better term for this, I haven't learned it in my 20+ years of being politically active in the US. Not that I think it does any good on a site like this, but I vouched for your original comment. I completely agree with you. I was also raised in the cult and have first hand experience with many people still in it. I know why they would support and lend effort to things like these. They support all sorts of awful shit.

by Timon3 1y ago

tstrimple 1y ago

Let me rephrase. The type of person who would submit "corrections" to grokopedia are the types of people who are typically interested in supporting its ideological outcomes. Because they have close enough to the same world-views. The same types of people who say female instead of women outside of a medical context or complain all the time about wokeness invading their favorite media. Someone who suggests that reporting errors to grokopedia would do any good are firmly in the camp that believes in the garbage it's trying to perpetuate. That's why they support it and why they think others should submit corrections. They know that this is being built with an explicitly partisan bias, but also know liberal folk are super weak to certain types of attacks. Attacks like "be fair" and "you can submit feedback". They are explicitly playing on liberal weaknesses all while leaning into the blatantly false representation of history. They will say "you can't judge it since you haven't provided feedback to help correct it" but that was never their intention and they just say those things because it confuses liberals. And I know I've overused "liberals" here. That's absolutely my bias slipping in. But they are the most credulous folks who will constantly try to reach across the aisle to blatant bad faith actors. If there's a better term for this, I haven't learned it in my 20+ years of being politically active in the US. Not that I think it does any good on a site like this, but I vouched for your original comment. I completely agree with you. I was also raised in the cult and have first hand experience with many people still in it. I know why they would support and lend effort to things like these. They support all sorts of awful shit.