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There are very much two views of what America should be like and pretending there isn’t is why Democrats keep losing. 40% of Americans cheer how the current ad

There are very much two views of what America should be like and pretending there isn’t is why Democrats keep losing. 40% of Americans cheer how the current administration treats immigrants, non straight people, etc and continue defend the words of a racist podcaster. They wouldn’t want a “nuclear” bomb because it affects them. But there was no real fallout politically for the police MOVE bombing. If you don’t think this country is divided, you haven’t been looking at where this country is and it’s view on reality. Those yokels on January 6th tried. But do you think they could have overcome even the local SWAT let alone the military? There have been yokels running around for decades trying. Heck an entire Confedrrsre army couldn’t defeat the US government backed by the states

ericmay 11mo ago
> Those yokels on January 6th tried. But do you think they could have overcome even the local SWAT let alone the military? Well they did - they weren't far away from grabbing Nancy Pelosi or Mike Pence. What's the US military going to do? It's not really equipped for this kind of stuff, oh and those yokels didn't really bring a ton of firearms, but they could have. Thankfully I don't think those yokels expected to have the success that they did and they didn't really intend to try and overthrow the government, though I personally believe they all should have been tried as many of them were. > There are very much two views of what America should be like and pretending there isn’t is why Democrats keep losing. The Democrats are losing because their ideas are by and large bad, and most Americans don't agree with them. Communism? Open Borders? Those are the topics that dominate the Democratic Party right now and as an independent I also find those ideas completely unpalatable, even though perhaps stupidly I still keep voting for Democrats locally because the MAGA goons make me so mad. I'm not suggesting the country isn't divided - it always has been and it's perhaps more divided now because people are spending all day on the Internet, but further dividing the country be calling things "red" or "blue" is actively harmful. Besides even in those so called "red" or "blue" areas there are plenty of people who are on the other side of the dominating spectrum. Plenty of rural Californias who vote Republican, plenty of liberals in Kansas City.
- JustExAWS 11mo ago
  No one is advocating for “communism” any more than Obama was a “secret Muslim trying to bring Sharia law into the US”. If you want to talk “socialism” that’s what you call tariffs that US citizens are paying and redistributing the taxes to farmers hurt by the tariffs. Again do you think if the terrorist on Jan 6th had bern minorities there wouldn’t have been overwhelming force? Even if they did manage to get to Pelosi and Pence, they weren’t going to overthrow the entire government. What could the military do? They had guns. They could shoot people. I’m well stew that red and blue is not statewide and there are more Republican voters in California than South Dakota.
  - ericmay 11mo ago
    > No one is advocating for “communism” No, there are many progressives who are quite literally calling for communism or to implement economic policies we know are destructive. This is like you trying to tell me MAGA goons don't want a 3rd Trump term. Call a spade a spade. > Again do you think if the terrorist on Jan 6th had bern minorities there wouldn’t have been overwhelming force? Even if they did manage to get to Pelosi and Pence, they weren’t going to overthrow the entire government. Some of them were minorities by the way. In fact you can go look at polling and you'll see Trump outperformed his last win across minority groups. But no, I don't think there would have been overwhelming force. There were/are too many J6 losers and they're not going to just gun them all down on TV. The military certainly wouldn't.
    - JustExAWS 11mo ago
      So let’s say the mostly Black Million Man March had turned violent and decided to invade the Capitol - what do you think the reaction would have been? What Democratic candidate on the national stage is saying that the government should take over all private industry and pay everyone the same and control industry? This is real “communism”
      - ericmay 11mo ago
        > So let’s say the mostly Black Million Man March had turned violent and decided to invade the Capitol - what do you think the reaction would have been? I don't really know, are they a Black Million Man March for a sitting president named Donald J. Trump? You're just throwing straw man arguments out there. > What Democratic candidate on the national stage is saying that the government should take over all private industry and pay everyone the same and control industry? This is real “communism” There's always talk about things like nationalizing industries and such. Government run grocery stores, you name it. Some ideas are worth trying, some aren't, but as we do try new ideas we should be vigilant against authoritarian ideologies whether those are coming from MAGA or commies. Keep in mind I'm separating out Progressives from Democrats because like the Republicans they're not all united. As I know you are well aware with MAGA goons, you don't have to come out with a piece of paper and say "Hello, we are Communists and we want to implement these specific things to achieve our stated goal of Communism. Thank you". It's emergent from policy and platforms, terms of usage "equity" etc.

ericmay 11mo ago

> Those yokels on January 6th tried. But do you think they could have overcome even the local SWAT let alone the military? Well they did - they weren't far away from grabbing Nancy Pelosi or Mike Pence. What's the US military going to do? It's not really equipped for this kind of stuff, oh and those yokels didn't really bring a ton of firearms, but they could have. Thankfully I don't think those yokels expected to have the success that they did and they didn't really intend to try and overthrow the government, though I personally believe they all should have been tried as many of them were. > There are very much two views of what America should be like and pretending there isn’t is why Democrats keep losing. The Democrats are losing because their ideas are by and large bad, and most Americans don't agree with them. Communism? Open Borders? Those are the topics that dominate the Democratic Party right now and as an independent I also find those ideas completely unpalatable, even though perhaps stupidly I still keep voting for Democrats locally because the MAGA goons make me so mad. I'm not suggesting the country isn't divided - it always has been and it's perhaps more divided now because people are spending all day on the Internet, but further dividing the country be calling things "red" or "blue" is actively harmful. Besides even in those so called "red" or "blue" areas there are plenty of people who are on the other side of the dominating spectrum. Plenty of rural Californias who vote Republican, plenty of liberals in Kansas City.

JustExAWS 11mo ago
No one is advocating for “communism” any more than Obama was a “secret Muslim trying to bring Sharia law into the US”. If you want to talk “socialism” that’s what you call tariffs that US citizens are paying and redistributing the taxes to farmers hurt by the tariffs. Again do you think if the terrorist on Jan 6th had bern minorities there wouldn’t have been overwhelming force? Even if they did manage to get to Pelosi and Pence, they weren’t going to overthrow the entire government. What could the military do? They had guns. They could shoot people. I’m well stew that red and blue is not statewide and there are more Republican voters in California than South Dakota.
- ericmay 11mo ago
  > No one is advocating for “communism” No, there are many progressives who are quite literally calling for communism or to implement economic policies we know are destructive. This is like you trying to tell me MAGA goons don't want a 3rd Trump term. Call a spade a spade. > Again do you think if the terrorist on Jan 6th had bern minorities there wouldn’t have been overwhelming force? Even if they did manage to get to Pelosi and Pence, they weren’t going to overthrow the entire government. Some of them were minorities by the way. In fact you can go look at polling and you'll see Trump outperformed his last win across minority groups. But no, I don't think there would have been overwhelming force. There were/are too many J6 losers and they're not going to just gun them all down on TV. The military certainly wouldn't.
  - JustExAWS 11mo ago
    So let’s say the mostly Black Million Man March had turned violent and decided to invade the Capitol - what do you think the reaction would have been? What Democratic candidate on the national stage is saying that the government should take over all private industry and pay everyone the same and control industry? This is real “communism”
    - ericmay 11mo ago
      > So let’s say the mostly Black Million Man March had turned violent and decided to invade the Capitol - what do you think the reaction would have been? I don't really know, are they a Black Million Man March for a sitting president named Donald J. Trump? You're just throwing straw man arguments out there. > What Democratic candidate on the national stage is saying that the government should take over all private industry and pay everyone the same and control industry? This is real “communism” There's always talk about things like nationalizing industries and such. Government run grocery stores, you name it. Some ideas are worth trying, some aren't, but as we do try new ideas we should be vigilant against authoritarian ideologies whether those are coming from MAGA or commies. Keep in mind I'm separating out Progressives from Democrats because like the Republicans they're not all united. As I know you are well aware with MAGA goons, you don't have to come out with a piece of paper and say "Hello, we are Communists and we want to implement these specific things to achieve our stated goal of Communism. Thank you". It's emergent from policy and platforms, terms of usage "equity" etc.