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For the informed nerd (e.g. read Elizondo first or Greer, Bledsoe) it should by now be established, that we have a serious UAP problem. Hence it's a good thing
by beyondCritics 11mo ago
For the informed nerd (e.g. read Elizondo first or Greer, Bledsoe) it should by now be established, that we have a serious UAP problem. Hence it's a good thing that all the incidents that were previously ridiculed and downplayed are now one by one reconsidered.
- saaaaaam 11mo agoI didn’t know who Elizondo is. I just read a little. It appears he’s been pretty comprehensively debunked? By serious UAP problem did you mean problem with people claiming everything is a UAP, or did you mean problem in the sense of “there are lots of UAPs and we don’t know why”?
- Marshferm 11mo agoThe transition from burning bush to UFO to UAP... I wonder of we modernized our relationship to phenomena in technology and shift from spectral beings to extraterrestrial beings as a built-in problem of explanations, based in some simplistic reliance of cause and effect. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352250X2200183X https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352250X2...
- datavirtue 11mo agoYes, people used to see fairies a lot.
- montjoy 11mo agoThere are probably 1000s of reports of from people across the globe that are seeing very similar things that remain unexplained. If the evidence went to a courtroom, I think certain UAP “cases” would pass have a positive “verdict” based on overwhelming circumstantial evidence. However, science has a higher bar (as it should) so when we ask our experts what’s happening they have to say “no evidence” or else lose their credibility.
- Marshferm 11mo agoThe debunking of each case of UAP I've seen involves a mixture of science and folk science. They're fairly easily debunked if your persepctive changes.
- montjoy 11mo agoSome, yes. If you’re genuinely curious I’d invite you to read project blue book or read through nuforc reports. But I get it. If I hadn’t heard some things first hand from credible witnesses I’d be more skeptical too.
- beyondCritics 11mo agoFor the records: I'm taking it very seriously and had this book in mind: Elizondo, L. (2024). Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's hunt for UFOs. William Morrow. The tone is very dark though.
- Marshferm 11mo agohttps://www.metabunk.org/threads/errors-in-luis-elizondos-ufo-book-imminent.13613/ https://www.metabunk.org/threads/errors-in-luis-elizondos-uf...
- strathmeyer 11mo ago[dead]