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And to compare: https://grokipedia.com/page/Elon_Musk https://grokipedia.com/page/Elon_Musk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk https://en.wikipedia.org/wik

by esher 11mo ago

And to compare: https://grokipedia.com/page/Elon_Musk https://grokipedia.com/page/Elon_Musk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk

toomuchtodo 11mo ago
"Every society is built on stories; those who control the narrative control the people." – Noam Chomsky
al_borland 11mo ago
It looks like that goes both ways. The Jimmy Wales Wikipedia page doesn’t have a section for controversies or anything. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Wales https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Wales https://grokipedia.com/page/Jimmy_Wales https://grokipedia.com/page/Jimmy_Wales
- jsheard 11mo ago
  They do have https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Wikipedia and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedia_controversies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedia_controversie... . They're just filed under Wikipedia itself rather than the founders profile.
delichon 11mo ago
Robert W. Malone sounds like an accomplished scientist in Grokipedia and a fraud in Wikipedia. For the ground truth I might start by reading both and asking an LLM for the diff. Interesting that Grok in Fast mode says that the Wikipedia version is more neutral, but Expert mode says that about the Grokipedia version. Now that you can cheaply insert a new ideological lens and generate a new version of Wikipedia, I expect to see lots of them. But it seems more sensible to just have the alternative LLMs generate alternative articles on demand rather than materializing the whole thing.
- dragonwriter 11mo ago
  Or, you could start by using tertiary sources correctly and follow the citations and read the sources they depend on, rather than using a hallucination machine to build something even farther from the ground truth from the already-distant sources.

by esher 11mo ago

And to compare: https://grokipedia.com/page/Elon_Musk https://grokipedia.com/page/Elon_Musk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk

toomuchtodo 11mo ago

"Every society is built on stories; those who control the narrative control the people." – Noam Chomsky

al_borland 11mo ago

It looks like that goes both ways. The Jimmy Wales Wikipedia page doesn’t have a section for controversies or anything. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Wales https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Wales https://grokipedia.com/page/Jimmy_Wales https://grokipedia.com/page/Jimmy_Wales

jsheard 11mo ago
They do have https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Wikipedia and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedia_controversies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedia_controversie... . They're just filed under Wikipedia itself rather than the founders profile.

delichon 11mo ago

Robert W. Malone sounds like an accomplished scientist in Grokipedia and a fraud in Wikipedia. For the ground truth I might start by reading both and asking an LLM for the diff. Interesting that Grok in Fast mode says that the Wikipedia version is more neutral, but Expert mode says that about the Grokipedia version. Now that you can cheaply insert a new ideological lens and generate a new version of Wikipedia, I expect to see lots of them. But it seems more sensible to just have the alternative LLMs generate alternative articles on demand rather than materializing the whole thing.

dragonwriter 11mo ago
Or, you could start by using tertiary sources correctly and follow the citations and read the sources they depend on, rather than using a hallucination machine to build something even farther from the ground truth from the already-distant sources.