> but that Waymo's at least are already far safer than human drivers Is that really true? the only data I can find is published by Waymo or others who are obv

> but that Waymo's at least are already far safer than human drivers Is that really true? the only data I can find is published by Waymo or others who are obviously not independent of Waymo. Is there any independent data or investigators in this? Until then I need to be cautious. The big question is are they really safer, or are they just safer if you include a few outliers (alcohol) that among humans are significantly worse. I'm not doubting the claim, and I've always though it is a matter of time before autonomous cars are statistically safer.