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C# and .NET have a bigger market share than what gets talked about in trendy circles

jtbaker 1y ago
C#/.NET are nice. Azure/Microsoft Cloud not so nice. Idk, maybe I have some bias due to familiarity, but I find the GCP admin and tools to be so much more intuitive than the Azure (and AWS too, for that matter) counterparts.
- jstummbillig 1y ago
  Oh dear lord, GCP could be the intuitive one?! I have not used anything else but, dear lord, that's shocking and not at all surprising at the same time.
  - arresin 1y ago
    Any speculation on why none of them can make a UI and UX that is not 100% completely shit and makes you feel miserable and stressed out? Couldn’t they just throw money at the problem? Or fire the criminals who designed it?
    - xp84 1y ago
      All the cloud platforms do not care about UI/UX at all. Although GCP gets honorable mention for being pretty consistent and I have to admit not too bad. But anyway none of them care because it’s expected that 90% of the usage of the platform will be via a CLI or some abstraction (k8s, terraform, etc etc). So, they put minimum effort into UI quality, usefulness, consistency, appearance. That’s my understanding anyway
    - jstummbillig 1y ago
      a) Design is super hard when your product MUST do a lot (and GCP definitely has to do a lot) b) You design for the audience. The complexity that person-who-would-ever-use-GCP will deal with is far beyond what the average internet user would ever endure.
  - biglyburrito 1y ago
    Yeah, agreed. I love C# & the .NET platform; I do not feel the same way about Azure. It’s still way better than GCP, though.
  - 91bananas 1y ago
    Yeah this is not the case at all lol. I actually find Azure to be far more intuitive after suffering through AWS and a little GCP. It certainly seems more stable in US regions than AWS. One thing I will say is the Azure documentation is some of the most cumbersome to navigate I've ever experienced, there is a dearth of information in there, you just have to know how to find it.
    - latentsea 1y ago
      Doesn't a dearth mean a lack of?
      - 91bananas 1y ago
        Probably. I guess I meant a shit ton, but written in a series of confusing "choose your own adventure" style bursts of 40 new browser tabs to figure anything out.

C#/.NET are nice. Azure/Microsoft Cloud not so nice. Idk, maybe I have some bias due to familiarity, but I find the GCP admin and tools to be so much more intuitive than the Azure (and AWS too, for that matter) counterparts.

jstummbillig 1y ago
Oh dear lord, GCP could be the intuitive one?! I have not used anything else but, dear lord, that's shocking and not at all surprising at the same time.
- arresin 1y ago
  Any speculation on why none of them can make a UI and UX that is not 100% completely shit and makes you feel miserable and stressed out? Couldn’t they just throw money at the problem? Or fire the criminals who designed it?
  - xp84 1y ago
    All the cloud platforms do not care about UI/UX at all. Although GCP gets honorable mention for being pretty consistent and I have to admit not too bad. But anyway none of them care because it’s expected that 90% of the usage of the platform will be via a CLI or some abstraction (k8s, terraform, etc etc). So, they put minimum effort into UI quality, usefulness, consistency, appearance. That’s my understanding anyway
  - jstummbillig 1y ago
    a) Design is super hard when your product MUST do a lot (and GCP definitely has to do a lot) b) You design for the audience. The complexity that person-who-would-ever-use-GCP will deal with is far beyond what the average internet user would ever endure.
- biglyburrito 1y ago
  Yeah, agreed. I love C# & the .NET platform; I do not feel the same way about Azure. It’s still way better than GCP, though.
- 91bananas 1y ago
  Yeah this is not the case at all lol. I actually find Azure to be far more intuitive after suffering through AWS and a little GCP. It certainly seems more stable in US regions than AWS. One thing I will say is the Azure documentation is some of the most cumbersome to navigate I've ever experienced, there is a dearth of information in there, you just have to know how to find it.
  - latentsea 1y ago
    Doesn't a dearth mean a lack of?
    - 91bananas 1y ago
      Probably. I guess I meant a shit ton, but written in a series of confusing "choose your own adventure" style bursts of 40 new browser tabs to figure anything out.