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I think they will reach AGI pretty soon, because only AGI can find a way to make them profitable.

by r0x0r007 11mo ago

sambaumann 11mo ago
Plenty of businesses fail to find a way to make a profit
- xwowsersx 11mo ago
  OP said necessary, not sufficient
  - AnimalMuppet 11mo ago
    OP said "will". That doesn't sound like "necessary, not sufficient" to me.
    - xwowsersx 11mo ago
      You're missing context and/or didn't read OP's comment. He said "will" with regards to reaching AGI. He said "only AGI can find" with regards to profit. It was the latter that this thread was addressing.
      - AnimalMuppet 11mo ago
        You're missing context and/or didn't read OP's comment. He said "because". It will happen because that's the only way to reach profit. That's why it will happen.
        xwowsersx 11mo ago
        Yeah, exactly. The context here was about the profitability part of OP's comment. The parent said "plenty of businesses fail to find a way to make a profit," and my point was that OP's statement doesn't contradict that. OP was saying they'll need AGI to be profitable, not that they're guaranteed to become profitable. Sure, they phrased it as "they will reach AGI," but that's clearly tongue-in-cheek...the underlying idea is "they better reach AGI, because that's the only way they could make money." So my comment ("necessary, not sufficient") was just pointing out that even if AGI is required for profitability, it doesn't mean they'll actually get there or succeed once they do, and that the original comment was perfectly compatible with the idea that not every business reaches profitability.
        r0x0r007 11mo ago
        'the underlying idea is "they better reach AGI, because that's the only way they could make money."' Yeah, that's what I was going for.
noir_lord 11mo ago
I think they hope they will because if they don't at some point people are going to expect a return and get tired of throwing good money after bad. The longer they go without that and the more the sentiment starts to shift away from what they convinced people LLM's where vs what they actually are the riskier it becomes, are they are useful tool yes, are they not what they've been hyping for the last four years, also yes. They either crack it or they become an also ran. At which point Microsoft investors are going to be staring really hard at the CEO.

I think they will reach AGI pretty soon, because only AGI can find a way to make them profitable.

sambaumann 11mo ago

Plenty of businesses fail to find a way to make a profit

xwowsersx 11mo ago
OP said necessary, not sufficient
- AnimalMuppet 11mo ago
  OP said "will". That doesn't sound like "necessary, not sufficient" to me.
  - xwowsersx 11mo ago
    You're missing context and/or didn't read OP's comment. He said "will" with regards to reaching AGI. He said "only AGI can find" with regards to profit. It was the latter that this thread was addressing.
    - AnimalMuppet 11mo ago
      You're missing context and/or didn't read OP's comment. He said "because". It will happen because that's the only way to reach profit. That's why it will happen.
      - xwowsersx 11mo ago
        Yeah, exactly. The context here was about the profitability part of OP's comment. The parent said "plenty of businesses fail to find a way to make a profit," and my point was that OP's statement doesn't contradict that. OP was saying they'll need AGI to be profitable, not that they're guaranteed to become profitable. Sure, they phrased it as "they will reach AGI," but that's clearly tongue-in-cheek...the underlying idea is "they better reach AGI, because that's the only way they could make money." So my comment ("necessary, not sufficient") was just pointing out that even if AGI is required for profitability, it doesn't mean they'll actually get there or succeed once they do, and that the original comment was perfectly compatible with the idea that not every business reaches profitability.
        r0x0r007 11mo ago
        'the underlying idea is "they better reach AGI, because that's the only way they could make money."' Yeah, that's what I was going for.

noir_lord 11mo ago

I think they hope they will because if they don't at some point people are going to expect a return and get tired of throwing good money after bad. The longer they go without that and the more the sentiment starts to shift away from what they convinced people LLM's where vs what they actually are the riskier it becomes, are they are useful tool yes, are they not what they've been hyping for the last four years, also yes. They either crack it or they become an also ran. At which point Microsoft investors are going to be staring really hard at the CEO.