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Imo, this shows that LLMs are nice for compression, OCR and other similar tasks, but there is 0% thinking / logic involved: magistral: "Turn card pairs the boa

by Sweepi 1y ago

Imo, this shows that LLMs are nice for compression, OCR and other similar tasks, but there is 0% thinking / logic involved: magistral: "Turn card pairs the board with a T, potentially completing some straights and giving opponents possible two-pair or better hands" A card which pairs the board does not help with straights. The opposite is true. Far worse then hallucinating a function signature which does not exist, if you base anything on these types of fundamental errors, you build nothing. Read 10 turns on the website and you will find 2-3 extreme errors like this. There needs to be a real breakthrough regarding actual thinking(regardless of how slow/expensive it might be) before I believe there is a path to AGI.

StopDisinfo910 1y ago
Amunsingly, I have read 10 hands and I got the reverse impression you did. The analysis is often quite impressive even it is sometimes imperfect. They do play poker fairly well and explain clearly why they do what they do. Sure it's probably not the best way to do it but I'm still impressed by how effectively LLMs generalise. It's an incredible leap forward compared to five years ago.
apt-apt-apt-apt 1y ago
It never claimed that pairing the board helps with straights, only that some straights were potentially completed. Ironically, the example you gave in your point was based on a fundamental misinterpretation error, which itself was about basing things on fundamental errors.
- Sweepi 1y ago
  ?? It says that "Turn card pairs the board" (correct!) which means that there already was a ten(T), and now there is a 2nd ten(T) on the board aka in the community cards. Obviously, a card that pairs the board does not introduce a new value to the community cards and therefore can not complete or even help with any straight. What error are you talking about?
  - apt-apt-apt-apt 1y ago
    Oops, you're right. I didn't think it through enough.

by Sweepi 1y ago

StopDisinfo910 1y ago

Amunsingly, I have read 10 hands and I got the reverse impression you did. The analysis is often quite impressive even it is sometimes imperfect. They do play poker fairly well and explain clearly why they do what they do. Sure it's probably not the best way to do it but I'm still impressed by how effectively LLMs generalise. It's an incredible leap forward compared to five years ago.

apt-apt-apt-apt 1y ago

It never claimed that pairing the board helps with straights, only that some straights were potentially completed. Ironically, the example you gave in your point was based on a fundamental misinterpretation error, which itself was about basing things on fundamental errors.

Sweepi 1y ago
?? It says that "Turn card pairs the board" (correct!) which means that there already was a ten(T), and now there is a 2nd ten(T) on the board aka in the community cards. Obviously, a card that pairs the board does not introduce a new value to the community cards and therefore can not complete or even help with any straight. What error are you talking about?
- apt-apt-apt-apt 1y ago
  Oops, you're right. I didn't think it through enough.