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I do quite a bit of coding in C#, and have a lot of experience, and personally I haven't found LLMs to be that great a help at writing C#. First, LLMs are grea

I do quite a bit of coding in C#, and have a lot of experience, and personally I haven't found LLMs to be that great a help at writing C#. First, LLMs are great at learning new tech stacks, but good ol' ASP.NET has been pretty much stable since forever. Second, I think Rider/Resharper is the greatest piece of autocomplete tech ever made, seriously nothing ever comes, close, which means I'd rather do a refactor using them than do something similar by prompting the AI and hoping for the best. Also probably my experience makes me far less accepting of LLMisms, but that might just be on me. Lastly, AI seems to be focused around its own set of tooling, like Cursor, which is fine for TS but is far worse than Rider for things like C#. I know I could kludge things together, but still. As for Roslyn... I have some experience writing codegen/analyzers at my company and it feels like typical a Microsoft tech product, like WPF or Powershell. Brilliant idea (that's a market first as well) combined with really solid technical fundamentals, but plain confusing and overcomplicated UX, that makes it a chore to use. Seriously the amount of scaffolding you need to make even for a simple analyzer is just nuts

theshrike79 1y ago
> Lastly, AI seems to be focused around its own set of tooling, like Cursor Nah, the best coding LLMs are console applications like Claude Code, Codex CLI and the like. Editor integration mostly brings more tools, like tapping into different validators on VSCode and examining the "problems" view. Also Rider's autocomplete is at least partially AI powered unless you specifically disable it IIRC.
pjmlp 1y ago
Why I never bothered writing one is the scaffolding, and the dumb idea to write code with WriteLines instead of a nice experience like T4 templates.
latentsea 1y ago
My point is I can my an analyser in like 20 minutes now and it's not a chore at all. I've made like 15 for my current codebase, and when the LLM goes off the rails and generates code in a pattern I don't like, I don't tell it how to write the code much anymore, I tell it to write an analyser that prevents it from writing the code that way and then it goes about fixing it up because now the build fails. I do a lot of coding in C# with Rider, and refactoring has been a career speciality of mine. I personally find LLMs to have a tonne of value in this space.

theshrike79 1y ago

> Lastly, AI seems to be focused around its own set of tooling, like Cursor Nah, the best coding LLMs are console applications like Claude Code, Codex CLI and the like. Editor integration mostly brings more tools, like tapping into different validators on VSCode and examining the "problems" view. Also Rider's autocomplete is at least partially AI powered unless you specifically disable it IIRC.

pjmlp 1y ago

Why I never bothered writing one is the scaffolding, and the dumb idea to write code with WriteLines instead of a nice experience like T4 templates.

latentsea 1y ago

My point is I can my an analyser in like 20 minutes now and it's not a chore at all. I've made like 15 for my current codebase, and when the LLM goes off the rails and generates code in a pattern I don't like, I don't tell it how to write the code much anymore, I tell it to write an analyser that prevents it from writing the code that way and then it goes about fixing it up because now the build fails. I do a lot of coding in C# with Rider, and refactoring has been a career speciality of mine. I personally find LLMs to have a tonne of value in this space.