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They're doing something about it alright, they're monetizing their pain for shareholder gainz!

weatherlite 1y ago
Sure but your therapist is also monetizing your pain for his own gain. Either A.I therapy works (e.g can provide good mental relief) or it doesn't. I tend to think it's gonna be amazing at those things talking from experience (very rough week with my mom's health deterioriating fast, did a couple of sessions with Gemini that felt like I'm talking to a therapist). Perhaps it won't work well for hard issues like real mental disorders but guess what human therapists are very often also not great at treating people with serious issue.
- mns 1y ago
  But one is a company ran by sociopaths that have no empathy and couldn't care less about anything but money, while the other is a human that at least studied the field all their life.
  - weatherlite 1y ago
    > But one is a company ran by sociopaths that have no empathy and couldn't care less about anything but money, while the other is a human that at least studied the field all their life. Unpacking your argument you make two points: 1) The human has studied all his life; yes, some humans study and work hard. I have also studied programming half my life and it doesn't mean A.I can't make serious contributions in programming and that A.I won't keep improving. 2) These companies, or OpenAI in particular, are untrustworthy many grabbing assholes. To this I say if they truly care about money they will try to do a good job, e.g provide an A.I that is reliable, empathetic and that actually help you get on with life. If they won't - a competitor will. That's basically the idea of capitalism and it usually works.
- buellerbueller 1y ago
  Depression, ADHA, Schizophrenia are not a "very rough week"
  - weatherlite 1y ago
    I agree, in severe mental disorders A.I is probably not enough (and afaik it acknowledges this to the user right away) but it might be able to help. If we accept/believe that the act of talking about your problems and having them reframed back to you empathetically helps , I don't see why we can't accept LLMs can help here. I don't buy that only a human can do that.
    - buellerbueller 1y ago
      >If we accept/believe that the act of talking about your problems and having them reframed back to you empathetically helps ^This is the load-bearing statement. "Just talk about your depression" sounds like you know nothing of depression.

Sure but your therapist is also monetizing your pain for his own gain. Either A.I therapy works (e.g can provide good mental relief) or it doesn't. I tend to think it's gonna be amazing at those things talking from experience (very rough week with my mom's health deterioriating fast, did a couple of sessions with Gemini that felt like I'm talking to a therapist). Perhaps it won't work well for hard issues like real mental disorders but guess what human therapists are very often also not great at treating people with serious issue.

mns 1y ago
But one is a company ran by sociopaths that have no empathy and couldn't care less about anything but money, while the other is a human that at least studied the field all their life.
- weatherlite 1y ago
  > But one is a company ran by sociopaths that have no empathy and couldn't care less about anything but money, while the other is a human that at least studied the field all their life. Unpacking your argument you make two points: 1) The human has studied all his life; yes, some humans study and work hard. I have also studied programming half my life and it doesn't mean A.I can't make serious contributions in programming and that A.I won't keep improving. 2) These companies, or OpenAI in particular, are untrustworthy many grabbing assholes. To this I say if they truly care about money they will try to do a good job, e.g provide an A.I that is reliable, empathetic and that actually help you get on with life. If they won't - a competitor will. That's basically the idea of capitalism and it usually works.
buellerbueller 1y ago
Depression, ADHA, Schizophrenia are not a "very rough week"
- weatherlite 1y ago
  I agree, in severe mental disorders A.I is probably not enough (and afaik it acknowledges this to the user right away) but it might be able to help. If we accept/believe that the act of talking about your problems and having them reframed back to you empathetically helps , I don't see why we can't accept LLMs can help here. I don't buy that only a human can do that.
  - buellerbueller 1y ago
    >If we accept/believe that the act of talking about your problems and having them reframed back to you empathetically helps ^This is the load-bearing statement. "Just talk about your depression" sounds like you know nothing of depression.