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first the Microsoft guy touting agents now AWS guy doing it ! "My team is no different—we are producing code at 10x of typical high-velocity team. That's not
by Madmallard 1y ago
first the Microsoft guy touting agents
now AWS guy doing it !
"My team is no different—we are producing code at 10x of typical high-velocity team. That's not hyperbole - we've actually collected and analyzed the metrics."
Rofl
"The Cost-Benefit Rebalance"
In here he basically just talks about setting up mock dependencies and introducing intermittent failures into them. Mock dependencies have been around for decades, nothing new here.
It sounds like this test system you set up is as time consuming as solving the actual problems you're trying to solve, so what time are you saving?
"Driving Fast Requires Tighter Feedback Loop"
Yes if you're code-vomiting with agents and your test infrastructure isn't rock solid things will fall apart fast, that's obvious. But setting up a rock solid test infrastructure for your system involves basically solving most of the hard problems in the first place. So again, what? What value are you gaining here?
"The communication bottleneck"
Amazon was doing this when I worked there 12 years ago. We all sat in the same room.
"The gains are real - our team's 10x throughput increase isn't theoretical, it's measurable."
Show the data and proof. Doubt.
Yeah I don't know. This reads like complete nonsense honestly.
Paraphrasing:
"AI will give us huge gains, and we're already seeing it. But our pipelines and testing will need to be way stronger to withstand the massive increase in velocity!"
Velocity to do what? What are you guys even doing?
Amazon is firing 30,000 people by the way.
- p1necone 1y ago"Our testing needs to be better to handle all this increased velocity" reads to me like a euphemistic way of saying "we've 10x'ed the amount of broken garbage we're producing".
- lispisok 1y agoWe're back to using LOC as a productivity metric because LLMs are best at cranking out thousands of LOC really fast. Personal experience I had a colleague use Claude Code top create a PR consisting of a dozen files and thousands of line of code for something that could have been done in a couple hundred LOC in a single file.
- CharlesW 1y ago> We're back to using LOC as a productivity metric because LLMs are best at cranking out thousands of LOC really fast. Can you point me to anyone who knows what they're talking about declaring that LOC is the best productivity metric for AI-assisted software development?
- chipsrafferty 1y agoAre you implying that the author of this article doesn't know what they are talking about? Because they basically declared it in the article we just read. Can you point me to where the author of this article gives any proof to the claim of 10x increased productivity other than the screenshot of their git commits, which shows more squares in recent weeks? I know git commits could be net deleting code rather than adding code, but that's still using LOC, or number of commits as a proxy to it, as a metric.
- CharlesW 1y ago> I know git commits could be net deleting code rather than adding code… Yes, I'm also reading that the author believes commit velocity is one reflection of the productivity increases they're seeing, but I assume they're not a moron and has access to many other signals they're not sharing with us. Probably stuff like: https://www.amazon.science/blog/measuring-the-effectiveness-of-software-development-tools-and-practices https://www.amazon.science/blog/measuring-the-effectiveness-...
- yahoozoo 1y agoI had a coworker use Copilot to implement tab indexing through a Material UI DataGrid. The code was a few hundred lines. I showed them a way to do it in literally one line passed in the slot properties.
- shurane 1y agoMan hearing that depresses me. Some people really overcomplicate things.
- blibble 1y agoif you've ever had a friend that you knew before, then they went to work at amazon, it's like watching someone get indoctrinated into a cult and this guy didn't survive there for a decade by challenging it