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There is corruption for everything money touches... I actually wonder if there is not single moderately sized industry that does not have some interest group..
by Ekaros 1y ago
There is corruption for everything money touches...
I actually wonder if there is not single moderately sized industry that does not have some interest group...
- dylan604 1y agoIf there is and you name it, the interest group will be formed.
- ahmeneeroe-v2 1y agoIndustry advocacy groups ≠ corruption. They're basically necessary to do business in an advanced society that has rules governing every aspect of life. Those rules (even if good) often have unintended consequences and advocacy groups can help ensure that their industries are considered when rule-making.
- bitmasher9 1y agoLobbying as practiced by these advocacy groups is basically American flavored corruption. If the system were in place anywhere else we’d call it corruption, but it’s our system so we call it Lobbying.
- rcpt 1y agoNah dude look at France and their farm owners
- array_key_first 1y agoYes but that ship has sailed, so now you need anti-corruption corruption to hopefully corrupt the corruption so it's less corrupt. Like, the only reason "almond advocacy" even exists is because dairy and beef are some of the most lobbied and blessed industries in America. They can practically do whatever they want, whenever they want, so fuck you, pal.
- micromacrofoot 1y agothis assumes that the needs of both the workers and the owners (who pay for the lobbying) are aligned, and they're often not lobbyists will advocate for taking the water right from under the noses of the workers, and the workers will turn around and praise their employer for maintaining their jobs... it's often some kind of perverse shell game at the end of the day the owners fly off to wherever with a pile of money and the workers are left without jobs or water — these false dichotomies of "if it weren't for lobbyists all jobs would be regulated away" is often used to disenfranchise people from actually changing these systems
- ahmeneeroe-v2 1y agoThis assumes no such thing.
- micromacrofoot 1y agoYou're right, it asserts it. Lobbying is not necessary, and in some other wealthy countries it would be considered bribery. It only becomes advocacy when you take the money out of it.
- ahmeneeroe-v2 1y agoThis is a Netflix-political-drama enthusiast's understanding of lobbying. Turn off House of Cards or whatever and try to build something.
- micromacrofoot 1y agoI've built enough things to know that you don't build understanding by insulting people. You seem to disagree with my position, but are unable to find the words to defend yours.
- artursapek 1y agoAlmond trees are stuck as almond trees forever. They can't switch to something else. Anywhere an investment in something is entrenched like this, you'll find lobbying.
- hydrogen7800 1y agoThis sounds a bit sensationalized, and I'm not sure if it's the source from which I originally learned of the issue, but: >In a series of secret meetings in 1994, the Resnicks seized control of California’s public water supply. Now they’ve built a business empire by selling it back to working people. https://perfectunion.us/how-this-billionaire-couple-stole-californias-water-supply/ https://perfectunion.us/how-this-billionaire-couple-stole-ca...
- voakbasda 1y agoWhen the water wars start, they will be the first against the wall.