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> `<html lang="en">` The author might consider instead: `<html lang="en-US">`

mobeigi 11mo ago
Interesting. From what I can tell this allows some screen readers to select specific accents. Also the browser can select the appropriate spell checker (US English vs British English).
childintime 11mo ago
It's time for an "en-INTL" (or similar) for international english, that is mostly "en-US", but implies a US-International keyboard and removes americanisms, like Logical Punctuation in quotes [1]. Then AI can start writing for a wider and much larger public (and can also default to regular ISO units instead of imperial baby food). Additionally, it's kind of crazy we are not able to write any language with any keyboard, as nowadays we just don't know the idiom the person who sits behind the keyboard needs. [1] https://slate.com/human-interest/2011/05/logical-punctuation-should-we-start-placing-commas-outside-quotation-marks.html https://slate.com/human-interest/2011/05/logical-punctuation...
- qingcharles 11mo ago
  Isn't that what "en" on its own should be, though?
- chrismorgan 11mo ago
  If you want to divide English into only two categories, I reckon US English (color, analyze, center) and International English (colour, analyse, centre) is the best divide. It’s imperfect—Canadians are mostly International but want analyze, and there are other controversial words like program/programme (US, CA and AU prefer program; GB and IN prefer programme)—but I think it’s the best divide if you want only two. Windows distributes ISOs labelled English (en-US) and English International (en-GB) along this divide. It’s also a valuable divide for reasons beyond language, because the USA really does have a habit of doing its own thing, even when pretty much the rest of the world has agreed on something different. Your US English locale can default to Fahrenheit, miles, pounds, Letter, and their bizarre middle-endian date format, while International English can default to Celsius, kilometres, kilograms, A4, and DD/MM/YYYY. It doesn’t sort out everything, but it gives a much better starting point. Not every non-American prefers DD/MM/YYYY, but even if they’d prefer something like DD.MM.YY or YYYY-MM-DD, DD/MM/YYYY is a whole lot better than MM/DD/YYYY.
- fijiaarone 11mo ago
  We should also enforce a standard where every website has to change their content to match the user’s preferred idiomatic diss, whether it be “yo momma”, “deez nuts”, “six seven”, or a series of hottentot tongue clicks recorded in Ogg Vorbiz.
- Telaneo 11mo ago
  en-DK is used for this in some cases, giving you English, but with metric units and an ISO keyboard among other things. A dedicated one for International English, or heck, even just EU-English, would be great. The EU websites just use en from what I can tell, but they also just use de, fr, sv, rather than specifying country (except pt-PT, which makes sense, since pt-BR is very common, but not relevant for the EU).
Etheryte 11mo ago
Those two mean two very different things though, why would the author do that? Please see RFC 5646 [0], "en" means English without any further constraints, "en-US" means English as used in the United States. [0] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc5646 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc5646

Interesting. From what I can tell this allows some screen readers to select specific accents. Also the browser can select the appropriate spell checker (US English vs British English).

childintime 11mo ago

It's time for an "en-INTL" (or similar) for international english, that is mostly "en-US", but implies a US-International keyboard and removes americanisms, like Logical Punctuation in quotes [1]. Then AI can start writing for a wider and much larger public (and can also default to regular ISO units instead of imperial baby food). Additionally, it's kind of crazy we are not able to write any language with any keyboard, as nowadays we just don't know the idiom the person who sits behind the keyboard needs. [1] https://slate.com/human-interest/2011/05/logical-punctuation-should-we-start-placing-commas-outside-quotation-marks.html https://slate.com/human-interest/2011/05/logical-punctuation...

qingcharles 11mo ago
Isn't that what "en" on its own should be, though?
chrismorgan 11mo ago
If you want to divide English into only two categories, I reckon US English (color, analyze, center) and International English (colour, analyse, centre) is the best divide. It’s imperfect—Canadians are mostly International but want analyze, and there are other controversial words like program/programme (US, CA and AU prefer program; GB and IN prefer programme)—but I think it’s the best divide if you want only two. Windows distributes ISOs labelled English (en-US) and English International (en-GB) along this divide. It’s also a valuable divide for reasons beyond language, because the USA really does have a habit of doing its own thing, even when pretty much the rest of the world has agreed on something different. Your US English locale can default to Fahrenheit, miles, pounds, Letter, and their bizarre middle-endian date format, while International English can default to Celsius, kilometres, kilograms, A4, and DD/MM/YYYY. It doesn’t sort out everything, but it gives a much better starting point. Not every non-American prefers DD/MM/YYYY, but even if they’d prefer something like DD.MM.YY or YYYY-MM-DD, DD/MM/YYYY is a whole lot better than MM/DD/YYYY.
fijiaarone 11mo ago
We should also enforce a standard where every website has to change their content to match the user’s preferred idiomatic diss, whether it be “yo momma”, “deez nuts”, “six seven”, or a series of hottentot tongue clicks recorded in Ogg Vorbiz.
Telaneo 11mo ago
en-DK is used for this in some cases, giving you English, but with metric units and an ISO keyboard among other things. A dedicated one for International English, or heck, even just EU-English, would be great. The EU websites just use en from what I can tell, but they also just use de, fr, sv, rather than specifying country (except pt-PT, which makes sense, since pt-BR is very common, but not relevant for the EU).

Etheryte 11mo ago

Those two mean two very different things though, why would the author do that? Please see RFC 5646 [0], "en" means English without any further constraints, "en-US" means English as used in the United States. [0] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc5646 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc5646