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I most align with libertarian ideals. However, I lived in China full time for 10 years and traveled to many different countries too. I can’t think of even one p

I most align with libertarian ideals. However, I lived in China full time for 10 years and traveled to many different countries too. I can’t think of even one place I’ve visited where it would have been risk-free to openly criticize the current government leadership or their laws and culture, while I was a guest there.

BobaFloutist 11mo ago
That's one of the things that (previously, or hypothetically, take your pick) makes America great. That's why this shift is so frustrating and disappointing to so many Americans. It would be like if the Vatican became protestant, or the UK suddenly stopped drinking tea.
- tracker1 11mo ago
  Would you go into someone's home, tell them you hate them, want them dead and start setting fires in their living room then be surprised when they kick you out?
  - night862 11mo ago
    Dude you're directly conflating criticizing the government with arson.
  - BobaFloutist 11mo ago
    If I moved in with roommates and they immediately held a vote deciding that it's actually my job to do all the chores and that if I don't they're going to throw me out and actually I don't even deserve to be there so I better watch it, in the time between that happening and me securing a new residence, I'd probably tell them to eat shit and that their behavior is insane. If another resident is constantly talking shit about all the rest and saying he thinks they should be shot and go fuck themselves and their moms should die etc etc etc but they immediately call the police on me for telling them to fuck off, saying they felt "threatened" and "unsafe" just because I was the most recent one to move in, I'd also probably say "What the fuck?" about the double standard.
    - tracker1 11mo ago
      Did you sneak in through the window in the middle of the night and just camp, or are you on the lease?
      - BobaFloutist 11mo ago
        If a visa is being cancelled, I was at the very least invited to visit, and maybe given a short-term lease.
  - potato3732842 11mo ago
    I think the problem here is that it's not black and white like that, it's a bunch of not great shades of gray. It's like having a bunch of frat bros getting rowdy at a party while the host's wife is having a mental breakdown and waving a gun around. Like the frat bro's aren't great and probably wouldn't be getting that rowdy but are they really what's ruining the vibe?

BobaFloutist 11mo ago

That's one of the things that (previously, or hypothetically, take your pick) makes America great. That's why this shift is so frustrating and disappointing to so many Americans. It would be like if the Vatican became protestant, or the UK suddenly stopped drinking tea.

tracker1 11mo ago
Would you go into someone's home, tell them you hate them, want them dead and start setting fires in their living room then be surprised when they kick you out?
- night862 11mo ago
  Dude you're directly conflating criticizing the government with arson.
- BobaFloutist 11mo ago
  If I moved in with roommates and they immediately held a vote deciding that it's actually my job to do all the chores and that if I don't they're going to throw me out and actually I don't even deserve to be there so I better watch it, in the time between that happening and me securing a new residence, I'd probably tell them to eat shit and that their behavior is insane. If another resident is constantly talking shit about all the rest and saying he thinks they should be shot and go fuck themselves and their moms should die etc etc etc but they immediately call the police on me for telling them to fuck off, saying they felt "threatened" and "unsafe" just because I was the most recent one to move in, I'd also probably say "What the fuck?" about the double standard.
  - tracker1 11mo ago
    Did you sneak in through the window in the middle of the night and just camp, or are you on the lease?
    - BobaFloutist 11mo ago
      If a visa is being cancelled, I was at the very least invited to visit, and maybe given a short-term lease.
- potato3732842 11mo ago
  I think the problem here is that it's not black and white like that, it's a bunch of not great shades of gray. It's like having a bunch of frat bros getting rowdy at a party while the host's wife is having a mental breakdown and waving a gun around. Like the frat bro's aren't great and probably wouldn't be getting that rowdy but are they really what's ruining the vibe?