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>I'm sure this is going to be used by anarcho capitalist types and the media to say Milei's program of cutting public services is noble and great and here's the

>I'm sure this is going to be used by anarcho capitalist types and the media to say Milei's program of cutting public services is noble and great and here's the proof. I feel like I must be taking crazy pills though. If the Argentinian gov needs 40 billion from the US to continue functioning, how does that mean Milei's policies are working? Socialists have run argentina for many decades. It wasnt going well and they gave Milei a mandate to fix Argentina. If the people just voted in a landslide confirming their continued approval. Then we can conclude those who are best to judge, the people, think it's working. > It's like if I decide to use a car to drive 1000 miles, but I only buy enough gas for 500 miles, but a dude at the midpoint in my journey offers to lend me enough money for the next 500 miles of gas if I kick all Chinese people out of my car in return, and then I return and say see due to my amazing thought leadership my car has double the gas mileage now. In your scenario you assign no blame at all to the previous governments? You completely ignore and discount why the people decided to give him a mandate?

etc-hosts 1y ago
Perhaps Argentinian citizens take the long view and decided Milei's policies are the best route of 'the hole', or maybe they decided the US's offer of 40 billion dollars only if they elected Milei again is the more likely scenario. Milei's seemed spectacularly unpopular only 3 weeks ago.
kragen 1y ago
As I explained in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45719611 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45719611, the previous governments have not been Socialist, hewing more closely to Fascism. Argentina has never had a Socialist President. There hasn't been a mainstream Socialist party in Argentina in decades. The PTS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Workers%27_Party_(Argentina) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Workers%27_Party_(Ar... has four seats in the Cámara de Diputados and zero seats in the Senate. The PO https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workers%27_Party_(Argentina) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workers%27_Party_(Argentina) has one seat in Diputados and zero seats in the Senate. The PCA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Argentina https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Argentina has zero seats in Congress. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermes_Binner https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermes_Binner was the first (and I think only) Socialist governor of an Argentine province, from 02007 to 02011, and he died in 02020. The UCR https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_Civic_Union https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_Civic_Union is nominally a member of the Socialist International, and many decades ago was roughly aligned with Socialism, but in recent decades their politics mostly favor big landowners and other big businesses. Instead of running their own presidential candidate in 02023, they backed the mano dura Patricia Bullrich, notable for being the only major candidate more right-wing than Milei; he made her his Minister of Security. They did hold the presidency for two years until the crisis in 02001, and previously with Alfonsín in the 80s. They've voted in favor of a lot of Milei's initiatives in Congress; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentine_National_Congress https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentine_National_Congress lists them as "independent".

etc-hosts 1y ago

Perhaps Argentinian citizens take the long view and decided Milei's policies are the best route of 'the hole', or maybe they decided the US's offer of 40 billion dollars only if they elected Milei again is the more likely scenario. Milei's seemed spectacularly unpopular only 3 weeks ago.

kragen 1y ago

As I explained in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45719611 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45719611, the previous governments have not been Socialist, hewing more closely to Fascism. Argentina has never had a Socialist President. There hasn't been a mainstream Socialist party in Argentina in decades. The PTS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Workers%27_Party_(Argentina) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Workers%27_Party_(Ar... has four seats in the Cámara de Diputados and zero seats in the Senate. The PO https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workers%27_Party_(Argentina) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workers%27_Party_(Argentina) has one seat in Diputados and zero seats in the Senate. The PCA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Argentina https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Argentina has zero seats in Congress. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermes_Binner https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermes_Binner was the first (and I think only) Socialist governor of an Argentine province, from 02007 to 02011, and he died in 02020. The UCR https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_Civic_Union https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_Civic_Union is nominally a member of the Socialist International, and many decades ago was roughly aligned with Socialism, but in recent decades their politics mostly favor big landowners and other big businesses. Instead of running their own presidential candidate in 02023, they backed the mano dura Patricia Bullrich, notable for being the only major candidate more right-wing than Milei; he made her his Minister of Security. They did hold the presidency for two years until the crisis in 02001, and previously with Alfonsín in the 80s. They've voted in favor of a lot of Milei's initiatives in Congress; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentine_National_Congress https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentine_National_Congress lists them as "independent".