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The one word answer to this? Linux.

by fghorow 1y ago

jwrallie 1y ago
As long as common PCs can boot an iso we should be good to go.
- dns_snek 1y ago
  Only as long as Google doesn't force Web Environment Integrity through. Running a custom OS won't help if important websites refuse to load unless they're running in an approved browser with a set of approved extensions, on an approved OS, on top of approved hardware.
  - Seattle3503 1y ago
    I've been beating the drum that we need mobile drivers licenses and pairwise pseudonyms. It is a path to beating spam and bots in a way that doesn't hand control over to private entities. Some folks don't like digital identity controlled by government, but it seems like the alternative is digital identity controlled by oligopoly.
lou1306 1y ago
The article is largely about phones, where the barrier to install a truly open Linux system are high and getting higher.
- jeroenhd 1y ago
  There are plenty of smartphone companies locking down their bootloaders, but there are others that will let you unlock your bootloader by just running the basic command. A much bigger problem for running Linux on phones is that standard Linux runs like crap on phones. It doesn't have the mainline driver support amd64 computers have, and the battery life optimizations that make Android usable need to be reimplemented on top of Linux to get a day's worth of use out of your phone. Unfortunately, most Linux applications are written for desktops where they expect the CPU to be running all the time, the WiFi to be accessible whenever they want, and for sleep/suspend to be extremely incidental rather than every two minutes.
  - netdevphoenix 1y ago
    Have an optimised web browser for the OS and you don't really have to worry about 3rd party software performance any more or not that much
- fsflover 1y ago
  I do run GNU/Linux on my smartphone. No Android or iOS.
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welferkj 1y ago
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stronglikedan 1y ago
Sure, until the software that you need to participate in modern society no longer supports Linux.
dehrmann 1y ago
It got this way because 99% of people are happy running what's in the app store, and the security protections are more valuable than being able to run arbitrary code. Linux as an answer doesn't address the needs of 99% of people, so 98% will never adopt it. It's better to meet people where they're at and push for sideloading and alternative app stores.
donmcronald 1y ago
The three word rebuttal? Banking on GrapheneOS
- velocity3230 1y ago
  Works just fine for me. Perhaps consider moving to a bank that's more aware of alternates than just the existing duopoly.

The one word answer to this? Linux.

jwrallie 1y ago

As long as common PCs can boot an iso we should be good to go.

dns_snek 1y ago
Only as long as Google doesn't force Web Environment Integrity through. Running a custom OS won't help if important websites refuse to load unless they're running in an approved browser with a set of approved extensions, on an approved OS, on top of approved hardware.
- Seattle3503 1y ago
  I've been beating the drum that we need mobile drivers licenses and pairwise pseudonyms. It is a path to beating spam and bots in a way that doesn't hand control over to private entities. Some folks don't like digital identity controlled by government, but it seems like the alternative is digital identity controlled by oligopoly.

lou1306 1y ago

The article is largely about phones, where the barrier to install a truly open Linux system are high and getting higher.

jeroenhd 1y ago
There are plenty of smartphone companies locking down their bootloaders, but there are others that will let you unlock your bootloader by just running the basic command. A much bigger problem for running Linux on phones is that standard Linux runs like crap on phones. It doesn't have the mainline driver support amd64 computers have, and the battery life optimizations that make Android usable need to be reimplemented on top of Linux to get a day's worth of use out of your phone. Unfortunately, most Linux applications are written for desktops where they expect the CPU to be running all the time, the WiFi to be accessible whenever they want, and for sleep/suspend to be extremely incidental rather than every two minutes.
- netdevphoenix 1y ago
  Have an optimised web browser for the OS and you don't really have to worry about 3rd party software performance any more or not that much
fsflover 1y ago
I do run GNU/Linux on my smartphone. No Android or iOS.

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welferkj 1y ago

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stronglikedan 1y ago

Sure, until the software that you need to participate in modern society no longer supports Linux.

dehrmann 1y ago

It got this way because 99% of people are happy running what's in the app store, and the security protections are more valuable than being able to run arbitrary code. Linux as an answer doesn't address the needs of 99% of people, so 98% will never adopt it. It's better to meet people where they're at and push for sideloading and alternative app stores.

donmcronald 1y ago

The three word rebuttal? Banking on GrapheneOS

velocity3230 1y ago
Works just fine for me. Perhaps consider moving to a bank that's more aware of alternates than just the existing duopoly.