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>>What is the logic here? You are complaining about Tesla Autopilot being unsafe, Sorry, I should have made it clearer perhaps 3 posts ago. My #1 issue is with

>>What is the logic here? You are complaining about Tesla Autopilot being unsafe, Sorry, I should have made it clearer perhaps 3 posts ago. My #1 issue is with Tesla calling it autopilot and selling a "full self driving" upgrades for real money even though they don't exist. Call it "smart lane assist" and I'll shut up. If you care why - because while you and I might understand that "it's just a bunch of cheap cameras keeping your car in the lane" - the public perception clearly doesn't see it that way. People cut naps behind the wheel of teslas far often than they do behind the wheels of Volvos of Peugeots, despite both of them sporting very advanced adaptive cruise systems. And we can say ok, but these people are dumb - sure, they definitely are, but I think pretending like Tesla's marketing isn't playing at least some part of it is just dishonest.

lotsofpulp 1y ago
Full self driving obviously does not exist, but I think Autopilot is just as valid of a name for what it does as smart lane assist. > People cut naps behind the wheel of teslas far often than they do behind the wheels of Volvos of Peugeots, despite both of them sporting very advanced adaptive cruise systems. Need a source on this one. You’d have to be a suicidal maniac to cut a nap on Autopilot, it doesn’t change lanes, it doesn’t stop for traffic lights or red lights or construction signs, and the Tesla very clearly tells you it won’t.
- gambiting 1y ago
  >>You’d have to be a suicidal maniac to cut a nap on Autopilot And yet.... https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2025/10/26/barrington-hills-police-arrest-tesla-driver-who-claimed-they-were-sleeping-with-car-in-autopilot-when-it-struck-squad-car/ https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2025/10/26/barrington-hil... https://abc7chicago.com/post/tesla-driver-caught-sleeping-autopilot-arrested-trafficking-meth-laced-vapes-north-carolina-police-say/15239762/ https://abc7chicago.com/post/tesla-driver-caught-sleeping-au... https://robbreport.com/motors/cars/canadian-police-arrest-sleeping-driver-tesla-autopilot-1234570071/ https://robbreport.com/motors/cars/canadian-police-arrest-sl... I can keep going, searching google for "tesla driver arrested while asleep" yields at least 20+ results, I didn't keep looking past page 3. As to whether that's more or less common with Volvo or any other brand.....that I can't tell you, you got me there, I don't know if there are public stats on this. But(anecdote) I have never seen a news article about non-Tesla drivers asleep behind the wheel on autopilot-like systems.

lotsofpulp 1y ago

Full self driving obviously does not exist, but I think Autopilot is just as valid of a name for what it does as smart lane assist. > People cut naps behind the wheel of teslas far often than they do behind the wheels of Volvos of Peugeots, despite both of them sporting very advanced adaptive cruise systems. Need a source on this one. You’d have to be a suicidal maniac to cut a nap on Autopilot, it doesn’t change lanes, it doesn’t stop for traffic lights or red lights or construction signs, and the Tesla very clearly tells you it won’t.

gambiting 1y ago
>>You’d have to be a suicidal maniac to cut a nap on Autopilot And yet.... https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2025/10/26/barrington-hills-police-arrest-tesla-driver-who-claimed-they-were-sleeping-with-car-in-autopilot-when-it-struck-squad-car/ https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2025/10/26/barrington-hil... https://abc7chicago.com/post/tesla-driver-caught-sleeping-autopilot-arrested-trafficking-meth-laced-vapes-north-carolina-police-say/15239762/ https://abc7chicago.com/post/tesla-driver-caught-sleeping-au... https://robbreport.com/motors/cars/canadian-police-arrest-sleeping-driver-tesla-autopilot-1234570071/ https://robbreport.com/motors/cars/canadian-police-arrest-sl... I can keep going, searching google for "tesla driver arrested while asleep" yields at least 20+ results, I didn't keep looking past page 3. As to whether that's more or less common with Volvo or any other brand.....that I can't tell you, you got me there, I don't know if there are public stats on this. But(anecdote) I have never seen a news article about non-Tesla drivers asleep behind the wheel on autopilot-like systems.