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I dislike your definition. There are many problems besides economic ones. If you defined "general" to mean "things the economy cares about", then what do you c

I dislike your definition. There are many problems besides economic ones. If you defined "general" to mean "things the economy cares about", then what do you call the sorts of intelligences that are capable of things that the economically relevant ones are not? A specific key opens a subset of locks, a general key would open all locks. General intelligence, then, can solve all solvable problems. It's rather arrogant to suppose that humans have it ourselves or that we can create something that does.

daxfohl 1y ago
It also partitions jobs into physical and intellectual aspects alone. Lots of jobs have a huge emotional/relational/empathetic components too. A teacher could get by being purely intellectual, but the really great ones have motivational/inspirational/caring aspects that an AI never could. Even if an AI says the exact same things, it doesn't have the same effect because everyone knows it's just an algorithm.
- ZoomZoomZoom 1y ago
  And most people get by on those jobs by faking the emotional component, at least some of the time. AGI presumably can fake perfectly and never burn out.
  - habinero 1y ago
    > And most people get by on those jobs by faking the emotional component If you think this is true, I would say you should leave artificial life alone until you can understand human beings better.
    - ZoomZoomZoom 1y ago
      Have a long talk with any working teacher or therapist. If you think the regular workload is adequate for them to offer enough genuine emotional support for all the people they work with, always, everyday, regardless of their personal circumstances, you're mistaken. Or the person you're talking with is incredibly lucky.
      - daxfohl 1y ago
        It doesn't have to be much, or intentional, or even good for that matter. My kids practice piano because they don't want to let their teacher down. (Well, one does. The other is made to practice because WE don't want to let the teacher down). If the teacher was a robot, I don't think the piano would get practiced. IDK how AI gains that ability. The requirement is basically "being human". And it seems like there's always going to be a need for humans in that space, no matter how smart AI gets.

daxfohl 1y ago

It also partitions jobs into physical and intellectual aspects alone. Lots of jobs have a huge emotional/relational/empathetic components too. A teacher could get by being purely intellectual, but the really great ones have motivational/inspirational/caring aspects that an AI never could. Even if an AI says the exact same things, it doesn't have the same effect because everyone knows it's just an algorithm.

ZoomZoomZoom 1y ago
And most people get by on those jobs by faking the emotional component, at least some of the time. AGI presumably can fake perfectly and never burn out.
- habinero 1y ago
  > And most people get by on those jobs by faking the emotional component If you think this is true, I would say you should leave artificial life alone until you can understand human beings better.
  - ZoomZoomZoom 1y ago
    Have a long talk with any working teacher or therapist. If you think the regular workload is adequate for them to offer enough genuine emotional support for all the people they work with, always, everyday, regardless of their personal circumstances, you're mistaken. Or the person you're talking with is incredibly lucky.
    - daxfohl 1y ago
      It doesn't have to be much, or intentional, or even good for that matter. My kids practice piano because they don't want to let their teacher down. (Well, one does. The other is made to practice because WE don't want to let the teacher down). If the teacher was a robot, I don't think the piano would get practiced. IDK how AI gains that ability. The requirement is basically "being human". And it seems like there's always going to be a need for humans in that space, no matter how smart AI gets.