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When I saw this and clicked it, I was preparing myself for a bootstrap-in-production-code abomination, but was pleasantly surprised. The design and interaction

by jenius 14y ago

When I saw this and clicked it, I was preparing myself for a bootstrap-in-production-code abomination, but was pleasantly surprised. The design and interaction on this site are gorgeous and not boostrapped, and the tool looks really nice for putting together prototypes. With all the horrible bootstrap default production sites i've seen lately, I've developed a pretty signficant hatred for the framework. But sometimes after seeing tools like this, I remember that it can be a very effective prototyping tool (as long as it's used only for prototypes, and you hire a real designer and/or front end guy to put together your production design and code). That being said, awesome job with this site and this tool. Then only suggestion I could possibly make would be to change the header text from "build amazing websites" to "build amazing prototypes" - this at least helps to spread the concept that boostrap does not replace good, unique design and code.

yesimahuman 14y ago
Thanks! We did build a lot of this with bootstrap itself, using custom LESS. I do disagree that bootstrap doesn't replace unique design and code. Lots of great websites have a standard set of interface elements, and bootstrap makes this extremely easy. Just add your custom styles and you have a unique site built on a solid CSS framework.
- wilfra 14y ago
  He said they just need to 'hire a real designer and/or front-end guy' - which basically translates to 'add your custom styles' and you're both happy. And I agree with you both. The problem is so many people don't do that. They just leave the stock bootstrap there. If you can't even be bothered to change the colors from the templates, how am I supposed to take your company seriously? Re: pricing. It depends how awesome you plan to make this. As it stands I'd probably pay $10 a month, maybe a bit more. If you fully pimped it out like Balsamiq has done for mockups - the sky is the limit. And if you had no competition for a bunch of your features - I'd actually prefer you charged more and had fewer customers, so everybody doesn't roll their eyes when they see something I built with Jetstrap, like they are doing now with Bootstrap (that assumes you get around to LESS integration...hint hint!).
krsunny 14y ago
What is so horrible about a default bootstrap production site and why would that make you develop a hatred for the framework?
- jenius 14y ago
  Using bootstrap default styles on a production site is lazy and shows a complete disregard for the art of design and front-end development. It's like buying a template from themeforest for $30 and changing the site title and name, except even worse: it's even less unique and more recognizable. I am super particular and nitpicky about design and front end things and have an abnormally high level of attention to detail so for me any company that uses default bootstrap in production is automatically not legit (this may not be the case for others). A legit company has the time and resources to create a custom unique design and interaction style that is suited to their brand. A BS company does not, so they use bootstrap.

by jenius 14y ago

yesimahuman 14y ago

Thanks! We did build a lot of this with bootstrap itself, using custom LESS. I do disagree that bootstrap doesn't replace unique design and code. Lots of great websites have a standard set of interface elements, and bootstrap makes this extremely easy. Just add your custom styles and you have a unique site built on a solid CSS framework.

wilfra 14y ago
He said they just need to 'hire a real designer and/or front-end guy' - which basically translates to 'add your custom styles' and you're both happy. And I agree with you both. The problem is so many people don't do that. They just leave the stock bootstrap there. If you can't even be bothered to change the colors from the templates, how am I supposed to take your company seriously? Re: pricing. It depends how awesome you plan to make this. As it stands I'd probably pay $10 a month, maybe a bit more. If you fully pimped it out like Balsamiq has done for mockups - the sky is the limit. And if you had no competition for a bunch of your features - I'd actually prefer you charged more and had fewer customers, so everybody doesn't roll their eyes when they see something I built with Jetstrap, like they are doing now with Bootstrap (that assumes you get around to LESS integration...hint hint!).

krsunny 14y ago

What is so horrible about a default bootstrap production site and why would that make you develop a hatred for the framework?

jenius 14y ago
Using bootstrap default styles on a production site is lazy and shows a complete disregard for the art of design and front-end development. It's like buying a template from themeforest for $30 and changing the site title and name, except even worse: it's even less unique and more recognizable. I am super particular and nitpicky about design and front end things and have an abnormally high level of attention to detail so for me any company that uses default bootstrap in production is automatically not legit (this may not be the case for others). A legit company has the time and resources to create a custom unique design and interaction style that is suited to their brand. A BS company does not, so they use bootstrap.