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The architecture of Eight Sleep is that the "Pod" – despite having a full Linux system running – is treated as nothing but a sensor and actuator. Absolutely zer
by Youden 1y ago
The architecture of Eight Sleep is that the "Pod" – despite having a full Linux system running – is treated as nothing but a sensor and actuator. Absolutely zero decision-making happens on the device itself; it's all controlled by commands received from the mothership via an AWS service.
My cynical take has always been that this is their justification for charging a subscription fee for features that shouldn't require one (e.g. an alarm clock or the ability to change the temperature on a schedule).
There are a couple of open-source projects around jailbreaking it:
- Probably the original attempt: https://github.com/bobobo1618/ninesleep https://github.com/bobobo1618/ninesleep
- The much more polished and usable application built from that starting point: https://github.com/throwaway31265/free-sleep https://github.com/throwaway31265/free-sleep
The latter is even able to do the signal processing needed for heart rate on-device.
- pedalpete 1y agoI found this to be a very strange architectural decision. We work in the neurotech/sleeptech space (https://affectablesleep.com https://affectablesleep.com) and have a subscription service as well. We know when your subscription runs out, and have built the device to run completely offline, and even have a buffer of days if it can't connect to check you have a valid subscription. Say what you will about subscription services, but being actively hostile to your user base because the device can't connect to a service on one night, seems like very poor planning. I actually quite look up to 8Sleep as one of the better companies in this space, so I'm surprised this happened to them.
- buggeryorkshire 1y ago"have a buffer of days" Interesting. So if your product cannot connect to the cloud/subscription, but still works, why is there an issue with it working fully locally?
- pedalpete 1y agoYes, our product works without any internet connection. I'm not sure what you mean "why is there an issue"? I don't think we have an issue, 8Sleep had an issue.