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"We kill people based on metadata" Michael Haydon Had to look that up.
by promptdaddy 11mo ago
"We kill people based on metadata" Michael Haydon
Had to look that up.
- themafia 11mo agoNow they're killing people based on language models. It always cracks me up that the big worry with available AI is that people will somehow use it to manipulate other people on the internet; meanwhile, the government has turned it into an assassination tool.
- stopbulying 11mo agoWhile AI language models can emulate legal and judicial language, they are not sufficient substitutes for Due Process of Law because they have a comparably unacceptable wrongful conviction rate given that there are "hallucinations" and false citations.
- worik 11mo agoBut they are doing it in secret. "Due process be damned" is the apparent attitude
- zzrrt 11mo agoI’m aware of rumors about Israel using AI in war, but where are you hearing of it being used in legal and judicial settings? Besides a few lawyers getting caught and sanctioned, I don’t think it’s happening much.
- bayindirh 11mo agoHere's an article: https://jacobin.com/2025/10/ice-zignal-surveillance-social-media https://jacobin.com/2025/10/ice-zignal-surveillance-social-m... ...and some quote from it: > One Zignal pamphlet from this year advertises the company’s work with the Israeli military, saying its data analytics platform provides “tactical intelligence” to “operators on the ground” in Gaza. The pamphlet also highlights Zignal’s work with the US Marines and the State Department.
- psunavy03 11mo agoJacobin is hardly a credible source.
- bayindirh 11mo agoZignal's document is linked in the article. IDF's logo is in that linked document. Don't believe me or Jacobin. Verify yourself.
- zzrrt 11mo agoI don’t think this really answers the question, how is AI being used in legal and judicial contexts? Not military and executive agencies. State Department maybe overlaps a bit, but no detail is given about what contexts they are using it in.
- bayindirh 11mo agoI replied to the "rumors of Israeli's use of AI in war" part. Not for the legal & judicial contexts. If I found anything on that regard, I'll post them, too.
- megous 11mo agoNot rummors. It's certain that Israel is using AI in war. IDF has massive contracts with american companies to provide AI services for variety of purposes, and confirms its use itself: https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-ai-technology-737bc17af7b03e98c29cec4e15d0f108 https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-ai-technology...
- miki123211 11mo agoThis is not the "right" way to use AI to kill people. AI lets you do sigint and treat it a lot more like humint. You can e.g. wiretap everybody a suspected terrorist has called in the last year, transcribe all their conversations and pass them through an AI model which flags anything "concerning." Unlike traditional approaches, AI can distinguish between "bomb" in the context of playing counter strike, discussing a news report and planning an actual terrorist attack. It can't do anything a human can't do, but it's orders of magnitude cheaper, especially if you can't outsource the human labor due to natsec concerns.
- freddie_mercury 11mo agoBecause manipulating billions of people a year is worse than assassinating 500 a year? Doesn't seem hard to figure out.
- themafia 11mo agoI could not possibly disagree more. Would you mind if one of the 500 was your mother? What if it was you? Would you still be so cavalier?
- wahern 11mo ago> People are now planting bombs in the tramways of Algiers. My mother might be on one of those tramways. If that is justice, then I prefer my mother. -- Albert Camus Contextualized: https://archive.org/details/AlbertCamusArthurGoldhammerAliceKaplanAlgerianChronicles/page/n15/mode/2up https://archive.org/details/AlbertCamusArthurGoldhammerAlice...