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EDIT, looks like I didn’t click on the “image editing” tab when I went to the site, so I guess take the rest of my below comments criticizing the terminology wi

EDIT, looks like I didn’t click on the “image editing” tab when I went to the site, so I guess take the rest of my below comments criticizing the terminology with a grain of salt… “Image editing” is a curious term, as it appears the site/topic is actually all about generating new images. The term in my mind should be for actual editing of existing, real, images, Eg “remove the coffee table” from this living room photo after uploading the image. I’ve found the actual “image generation” models to be bad at this because they introduce too many artifacts that weren’t in the original, which makes sense because they are really geared for creating images out of thin air. Multimodal models like qwen3-vl-30b-a3b, however, seem to do quite well with editing existing images without trying to constantly add in new things or trying to change the image in ways that you don’t want, as if it’s trying to do the “lets just generate a new image” thing. imagegpt.com is also good for editing existing images, but not sure what model they are using on the backend.

biinjo 1y ago
I don’t know if you and I are looking at the same site because all I see is existing images being edited with GenAI. Input: bald man Prompt: give bald man hair Output: edited original, now with hair That looks like editing to me. Or are we strictly adhering to the ‘generating new images’ definition because these models technically recreate the entire image? It would be like editing a photo in Photoshop. If you hit “Save” you edited the photo. But if you hit “Save As” and create a new file, the photo wasn’t edited but created as a new image?
vunderba 1y ago
I've actually gotten this comment a couple of times - perhaps I should make the nav bar at the top more prominently displayed. WRT to Qwen3, is it possible that the API/site you were using was passing your "image edit requests" to something like Qwen-Edit [1] under the covers? To my knowledge, Qwen3-VL (Vision Language) isn't capable of generating/modifying images - it's purely for doing reasoning about images. [1] https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen-Image-Edit https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen-Image-Edit

biinjo 1y ago

I don’t know if you and I are looking at the same site because all I see is existing images being edited with GenAI. Input: bald man Prompt: give bald man hair Output: edited original, now with hair That looks like editing to me. Or are we strictly adhering to the ‘generating new images’ definition because these models technically recreate the entire image? It would be like editing a photo in Photoshop. If you hit “Save” you edited the photo. But if you hit “Save As” and create a new file, the photo wasn’t edited but created as a new image?

vunderba 1y ago

I've actually gotten this comment a couple of times - perhaps I should make the nav bar at the top more prominently displayed. WRT to Qwen3, is it possible that the API/site you were using was passing your "image edit requests" to something like Qwen-Edit [1] under the covers? To my knowledge, Qwen3-VL (Vision Language) isn't capable of generating/modifying images - it's purely for doing reasoning about images. [1] https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen-Image-Edit https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen-Image-Edit