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Like I so tactfully implied, you are by far the biggest misogynist in this thread. You take the typical casual misogyny of HN and elevate it to a level that ma

Like I so tactfully implied, you are by far the biggest misogynist in this thread. You take the typical casual misogyny of HN and elevate it to a level that makes even the rest of em feel uncomfortable! Bravo!

menloparkbum 18y ago
I feel uncomfortable. How long has William J. Bennett been lurking on Hacker News? My last comment on this topic is to quit while you're behind. It is a lot easier for your future girlfriend to find out how much of a kook you've been on the internet than it is for you to figure out how much of a "lady" she's been with her previous relationships.
- time_management 18y ago
  To take my contempt for casual sex and run so far as to compare me to William J. Bennett is just ridiculous.
time_management 18y ago
Why do you consider me a misogynist? Please justify this claim, or shut the fuck up. I've never noticed a "typical casual misogyny" on this forum. Never. Perhaps we read different threads.
- ahoyhere 18y ago
  Let's see, in just the past few super nested comments, you... a) wagged your Madonna vs Whore complex out in the open air for everyone b) implied women who engage in casual sex have a clinical disorder c) said that women need society's protection against "cads" d) said women can't take casual sex because of their poor widdle emooootionnnssss! e) suggested that feminism has all the hallmarks of being engineered by evil menz! > I've never noticed a "typical casual misogyny" on this forum. Never. Perhaps we read different threads. Just like you can't see the stars when you're standing under a streetlamp, dude.
  - time_management 18y ago
    Let's see, in just the past few super nested comments, you... a) wagged your Madonna vs Whore complex out in the open air for everyone b) implied women who engage in casual sex have a clinical disorder c) said that women need society's protection against "cads" d) said women can't take casual sex because of their poor widdle emooootionnnssss! e) suggested that feminism has all the hallmarks of being engineered by evil menz! A. No. I said that I don't like casual sex. Madonna/whore implies that a woman who has any sex (or any sex with a man who's not her husband) is a whore. I don't think that's remotely true, and that I never said. It would be hypocritical. I'm not a virgin, but I've only had sex in the context of a committed, loving relationship, and I would be extremely suspicious of a woman who didn't share those values. A whore or slut is a person who has sex with bad or immoral motivations. There's nothing wrong with a person (male or female) enjoying sex. B. I implied that people (not just women) who enjoy casual sex are playing out anachronistic "alpha male" scripts, and that people with those tendencies tend to be psychopathic. Also, note that I used the term "alpha male" in reference to the clinical disorder of psychopathy, implying even more strongly that men who involve themselves in casual sex are disordered. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=456289 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=456289 There are, in fact, more men who are psychopaths than women. C. This was another poster. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=456087 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=456087 D. I said: "[Casual sex] destroys a lot of men emotionally, as well. It's just not healthy for anyone." http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=456289 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=456289 Men and women are not all that different, and I think men are just as often damaged by casual sex. These are all claims I've had about people. I made an effort not to gender them. You did. E. I did NOT say that. As per C, that was another poster. I don't conflate casual sex with feminism, and I would NEVER disparage feminism in such a way as to associate it with immoral behavior or to suggest that it was "engineered by evil men". Sex and the City is not feminist. It's entertainment, and shitty (arguably misogynist) entertainment at that. I am quite feminist, but I happen to believe that casual sex is radically anti-feminist.
    - anamax 18y ago
      > A whore or slut is a person who has sex with bad or immoral motivations. Does that mean that sex that is not motivated by "bad" or "immoral" is acceptable or are there other categories? How about a list of "bad" and "immoral" motivations?
- anamax 18y ago
  > Please justify this claim, or shut the fuck up. We've seen the unicorns and butterflies. (I missed the poetry) Now we're seeing the shining armor. I'll go out on a limb and guess that you haven't had an SO for the majority of your post-15 year-old life. You have deep friendships with women who tell you how wonderful you are but they have someone else or do without. In some cases, they even say things like "why can't my boyfriend be more like you". Here's today's clue. When women say "it's not you, it's me", they're lying. LJBF.
  - time_management 18y ago
    I'll go out on a limb and guess that you haven't had an SO for the majority of your post-15 year-old life. Correct. I bloomed late. I'm a pwncat now, but I'm also mature enough to use my "power" in constructive and appropriate ways. You have deep friendships with women who tell you how wonderful you are but they have someone else or do without. Sounds like my high school experience. You're not terribly far off-- 8 years or so. * In some cases, they even say things like "why can't my boyfriend be more like you".* I've only heard that one once, from a girl I probably could have "turned" because her boyfriend cheated and was generally mean to her (and she was smarter and much more attractive than he was). I had a girlfriend at the time. Here's today's clue. When women say "it's not you, it's me", they're lying. Indeed. LJBF. Ah, the acronyms. Do you fancy yourself a PUA or an AFC?
  - time_management 18y ago
    I'll go out on a limb and guess that you haven't had an SO for the majority of your post-15 year-old life. Correct. I bloomed late. I'm a pwncat now, but I'm also mature enough to use my "power" in constructive and appropriate ways. You have deep friendships with women who tell you how wonderful you are but they have someone else or do without. Sounds like my high school experience. You're not terribly far off-- 8 years or so. * In some cases, they even say things like "why can't my boyfriend be more like you".* I've only heard that one once, from a girl I probably could have "turned" because her boyfriend cheated and was generally mean to her (and she was smarter and much more attractive than he was). I had a girlfriend at the time. Here's today's clue. When women say "it's not you, it's me", they're lying. Indeed. LJBF. Ah, the acronyms. Do you fancy yourself a PUA or an AFC?

menloparkbum 18y ago

I feel uncomfortable. How long has William J. Bennett been lurking on Hacker News? My last comment on this topic is to quit while you're behind. It is a lot easier for your future girlfriend to find out how much of a kook you've been on the internet than it is for you to figure out how much of a "lady" she's been with her previous relationships.

time_management 18y ago
To take my contempt for casual sex and run so far as to compare me to William J. Bennett is just ridiculous.

time_management 18y ago

Why do you consider me a misogynist? Please justify this claim, or shut the fuck up. I've never noticed a "typical casual misogyny" on this forum. Never. Perhaps we read different threads.

ahoyhere 18y ago
Let's see, in just the past few super nested comments, you... a) wagged your Madonna vs Whore complex out in the open air for everyone b) implied women who engage in casual sex have a clinical disorder c) said that women need society's protection against "cads" d) said women can't take casual sex because of their poor widdle emooootionnnssss! e) suggested that feminism has all the hallmarks of being engineered by evil menz! > I've never noticed a "typical casual misogyny" on this forum. Never. Perhaps we read different threads. Just like you can't see the stars when you're standing under a streetlamp, dude.
- time_management 18y ago
  Let's see, in just the past few super nested comments, you... a) wagged your Madonna vs Whore complex out in the open air for everyone b) implied women who engage in casual sex have a clinical disorder c) said that women need society's protection against "cads" d) said women can't take casual sex because of their poor widdle emooootionnnssss! e) suggested that feminism has all the hallmarks of being engineered by evil menz! A. No. I said that I don't like casual sex. Madonna/whore implies that a woman who has any sex (or any sex with a man who's not her husband) is a whore. I don't think that's remotely true, and that I never said. It would be hypocritical. I'm not a virgin, but I've only had sex in the context of a committed, loving relationship, and I would be extremely suspicious of a woman who didn't share those values. A whore or slut is a person who has sex with bad or immoral motivations. There's nothing wrong with a person (male or female) enjoying sex. B. I implied that people (not just women) who enjoy casual sex are playing out anachronistic "alpha male" scripts, and that people with those tendencies tend to be psychopathic. Also, note that I used the term "alpha male" in reference to the clinical disorder of psychopathy, implying even more strongly that men who involve themselves in casual sex are disordered. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=456289 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=456289 There are, in fact, more men who are psychopaths than women. C. This was another poster. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=456087 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=456087 D. I said: "[Casual sex] destroys a lot of men emotionally, as well. It's just not healthy for anyone." http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=456289 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=456289 Men and women are not all that different, and I think men are just as often damaged by casual sex. These are all claims I've had about people. I made an effort not to gender them. You did. E. I did NOT say that. As per C, that was another poster. I don't conflate casual sex with feminism, and I would NEVER disparage feminism in such a way as to associate it with immoral behavior or to suggest that it was "engineered by evil men". Sex and the City is not feminist. It's entertainment, and shitty (arguably misogynist) entertainment at that. I am quite feminist, but I happen to believe that casual sex is radically anti-feminist.
  - anamax 18y ago
    > A whore or slut is a person who has sex with bad or immoral motivations. Does that mean that sex that is not motivated by "bad" or "immoral" is acceptable or are there other categories? How about a list of "bad" and "immoral" motivations?
anamax 18y ago
> Please justify this claim, or shut the fuck up. We've seen the unicorns and butterflies. (I missed the poetry) Now we're seeing the shining armor. I'll go out on a limb and guess that you haven't had an SO for the majority of your post-15 year-old life. You have deep friendships with women who tell you how wonderful you are but they have someone else or do without. In some cases, they even say things like "why can't my boyfriend be more like you". Here's today's clue. When women say "it's not you, it's me", they're lying. LJBF.
- time_management 18y ago
  I'll go out on a limb and guess that you haven't had an SO for the majority of your post-15 year-old life. Correct. I bloomed late. I'm a pwncat now, but I'm also mature enough to use my "power" in constructive and appropriate ways. You have deep friendships with women who tell you how wonderful you are but they have someone else or do without. Sounds like my high school experience. You're not terribly far off-- 8 years or so. * In some cases, they even say things like "why can't my boyfriend be more like you".* I've only heard that one once, from a girl I probably could have "turned" because her boyfriend cheated and was generally mean to her (and she was smarter and much more attractive than he was). I had a girlfriend at the time. Here's today's clue. When women say "it's not you, it's me", they're lying. Indeed. LJBF. Ah, the acronyms. Do you fancy yourself a PUA or an AFC?
- time_management 18y ago
  I'll go out on a limb and guess that you haven't had an SO for the majority of your post-15 year-old life. Correct. I bloomed late. I'm a pwncat now, but I'm also mature enough to use my "power" in constructive and appropriate ways. You have deep friendships with women who tell you how wonderful you are but they have someone else or do without. Sounds like my high school experience. You're not terribly far off-- 8 years or so. * In some cases, they even say things like "why can't my boyfriend be more like you".* I've only heard that one once, from a girl I probably could have "turned" because her boyfriend cheated and was generally mean to her (and she was smarter and much more attractive than he was). I had a girlfriend at the time. Here's today's clue. When women say "it's not you, it's me", they're lying. Indeed. LJBF. Ah, the acronyms. Do you fancy yourself a PUA or an AFC?