5 ms·
Seems very odd to list HTTPS. Intercepting traffic which is only encrypted at a different network layer, is not in any meaningful way intercepting unencrypted t
by ZiiS 1y ago
Seems very odd to list HTTPS. Intercepting traffic which is only encrypted at a different network layer, is not in any meaningful way intercepting unencrypted traffic.
- jeroenhd 1y agoHTTPS still exposes hostnames in most cases, so you can get a gist of wat someone is doing on the internet even if you can't see the exact contents. The unencrypted transmissions (SMS, phone calls) are much more interesting to listen in on, of course.
- pyuser583 1y agoA director of the NSA once said something like "we launch missiles based on metadata alone."
- promptdaddy 1y ago"We kill people based on metadata" Michael Haydon Had to look that up.
- themafia 1y agoNow they're killing people based on language models. It always cracks me up that the big worry with available AI is that people will somehow use it to manipulate other people on the internet; meanwhile, the government has turned it into an assassination tool.
- stopbulying 1y agoWhile AI language models can emulate legal and judicial language, they are not sufficient substitutes for Due Process of Law because they have a comparably unacceptable wrongful conviction rate given that there are "hallucinations" and false citations.
- worik 1y agoBut they are doing it in secret. "Due process be damned" is the apparent attitude
- zzrrt 1y agoI’m aware of rumors about Israel using AI in war, but where are you hearing of it being used in legal and judicial settings? Besides a few lawyers getting caught and sanctioned, I don’t think it’s happening much.
- bayindirh 1y agoHere's an article: https://jacobin.com/2025/10/ice-zignal-surveillance-social-media https://jacobin.com/2025/10/ice-zignal-surveillance-social-m... ...and some quote from it: > One Zignal pamphlet from this year advertises the company’s work with the Israeli military, saying its data analytics platform provides “tactical intelligence” to “operators on the ground” in Gaza. The pamphlet also highlights Zignal’s work with the US Marines and the State Department.
- psunavy03 1y agoJacobin is hardly a credible source.
- bayindirh 1y agoZignal's document is linked in the article. IDF's logo is in that linked document. Don't believe me or Jacobin. Verify yourself.
- zzrrt 1y agoI don’t think this really answers the question, how is AI being used in legal and judicial contexts? Not military and executive agencies. State Department maybe overlaps a bit, but no detail is given about what contexts they are using it in.
- 1y ago
- freddie_mercury 1y agoBecause manipulating billions of people a year is worse than assassinating 500 a year? Doesn't seem hard to figure out.
- themafia 1y agoI could not possibly disagree more. Would you mind if one of the 500 was your mother? What if it was you? Would you still be so cavalier?
- wahern 1y ago> People are now planting bombs in the tramways of Algiers. My mother might be on one of those tramways. If that is justice, then I prefer my mother. -- Albert Camus Contextualized: https://archive.org/details/AlbertCamusArthurGoldhammerAliceKaplanAlgerianChronicles/page/n15/mode/2up https://archive.org/details/AlbertCamusArthurGoldhammerAlice...
- matthewdgreen 1y agoHostnames, IP addresses and maybe occasionally an HTTP connection that lets you tie all that metadata to an actual human identity.