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Interesting how they never mention that these are Tesla Megapack 2 XL units (LFP chemistry) manufactured at Tesla’s Lathrop, CA “Megafactory.”

by delabay 11mo ago

JumpCrisscross 11mo ago
> Interesting how they never mention that these are Tesla Megapack 2 XL units It's a story about California's battery storage. Tesla hasn't built all of that capacity. For a Tesla (or other battery producer) press release? Sure. For an article about the general phenomenon? Irrelevant to the point that if it were included I'd be suspicious of the article being a plant.
- delabay 11mo ago
  By my estimate (GPT5) Tesla has up to 17% of all front and behind the meter battery storage in CA, and is also the vendor growing the fastest in CA. The California battery storage story is also a Tesla story, but based on the positive tone of the article, it clearly made more sense to leave Tesla out of it.
  - JumpCrisscross 11mo ago
    > By my estimate (GPT5) Please don't do this.
    - delabay 11mo ago
      What's your source?
      - jrflowers 11mo ago
        Are you asking Criscross if they have a source for your statement?
  - jrflowers 11mo ago
    > By my estimate (GPT5) You know treating a thing that makes stuff up as a source of truth is the same thing as making stuff up right? You might as well have written By my estimate (as revealed to me in a dream)
    - Paradigma11 11mo ago
      But is he wrong?
      - JumpCrisscross 11mo ago
        > is he wrong? Yes. “Nearly 75 players are active in the CAISO battery storage ecosystem. Top players include EIG Management Company, NextEra Energy, Arevon Energy, Hectate Energy, and Cultivate Power, all of which have eight or more projects underway” [1]. Tesla isn’t yet a player in utility storage. (They’re at the table, but only starting to bid, and they’re more or less politically fucked in America for the time being on that front.$ [1] https://blog.yesenergy.com/yeblog/the-caiso-energy-storage-revolution https://blog.yesenergy.com/yeblog/the-caiso-energy-storage-r...
      - jrflowers 11mo ago
        I would be more inclined to check and see if someone’s dream revelation was correct than be a human search engine for people that don’t want to use one.
- thegreatpeter 11mo ago
  If you google any article about eland it literally says they use tesla batteries that were built here in the US i think tesla has built MOST of the capacity
hagbard_c 11mo ago
That information does not fit the narrative so it is left unsaid.
- JumpCrisscross 11mo ago
  > That information does not fit the narrative so it is left unsaid This is a good opportunity to calibrate your sense of truth. The LA Times is owned by this South African-born immigrant [1]. (Himself the the son of "Chinese immigrant parents who fled China during the Japanese occupation.") He is, like Elon, pro-Trump (after, like Musk, supporting Democrats when they were in power) [2]. And he, like Elon, has censored his publication to reflect his views, including by opposing anti-Musk content [3]. If you're reading an article in the LA Times and, being upset it isn't mentioning Tesla, concluding it's part of an anti-Musk conspiracy, you're dead wrong. But you're probably also wrong about other adjacent hypotheses. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Soon-Shiong https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Soon-Shiong [2] https://www.politico.com/news/2025/05/13/la-times-owner-maneuvers-into-trumps-orbit-with-middle-east-meeting-00346991 https://www.politico.com/news/2025/05/13/la-times-owner-mane... [3] https://www.status.news/p/los-angeles-times-patrick-soon-shiong https://www.status.news/p/los-angeles-times-patrick-soon-shi...
  - nandomrumber 11mo ago
    It does mention another battery manufacturer, Spark. Where do they fit in to the narrative?
    - JumpCrisscross 11mo ago
      > Where do they fit in to the narrative? What narrative? If you're saying even a pro-Trump pro-Elon newspaper whose owner has a history of weighing in for Musk has a bias against him, you're saying Elon's massively lost not only standing but also sympathy across the aisle. If that's true, his companies are toast. That doesn't seem to be the case. So maybe revisit the hypothesis when the data reject it.
  - roman_soldier 11mo ago
nandomrumber 11mo ago
Interesting how the only dollar figure mentioned in the article is about money the Trump administration has put up to refurbish coal plants.
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Interesting how they never mention that these are Tesla Megapack 2 XL units (LFP chemistry) manufactured at Tesla’s Lathrop, CA “Megafactory.”

by delabay 11mo ago

Interesting how they never mention that these are Tesla Megapack 2 XL units (LFP chemistry) manufactured at Tesla’s Lathrop, CA “Megafactory.”

JumpCrisscross 11mo ago

> Interesting how they never mention that these are Tesla Megapack 2 XL units It's a story about California's battery storage. Tesla hasn't built all of that capacity. For a Tesla (or other battery producer) press release? Sure. For an article about the general phenomenon? Irrelevant to the point that if it were included I'd be suspicious of the article being a plant.

delabay 11mo ago
By my estimate (GPT5) Tesla has up to 17% of all front and behind the meter battery storage in CA, and is also the vendor growing the fastest in CA. The California battery storage story is also a Tesla story, but based on the positive tone of the article, it clearly made more sense to leave Tesla out of it.
- JumpCrisscross 11mo ago
  > By my estimate (GPT5) Please don't do this.
  - delabay 11mo ago
    What's your source?
    - jrflowers 11mo ago
      Are you asking Criscross if they have a source for your statement?
- jrflowers 11mo ago
  > By my estimate (GPT5) You know treating a thing that makes stuff up as a source of truth is the same thing as making stuff up right? You might as well have written By my estimate (as revealed to me in a dream)
  - Paradigma11 11mo ago
    But is he wrong?
    - JumpCrisscross 11mo ago
      > is he wrong? Yes. “Nearly 75 players are active in the CAISO battery storage ecosystem. Top players include EIG Management Company, NextEra Energy, Arevon Energy, Hectate Energy, and Cultivate Power, all of which have eight or more projects underway” [1]. Tesla isn’t yet a player in utility storage. (They’re at the table, but only starting to bid, and they’re more or less politically fucked in America for the time being on that front.$ [1] https://blog.yesenergy.com/yeblog/the-caiso-energy-storage-revolution https://blog.yesenergy.com/yeblog/the-caiso-energy-storage-r...
    - jrflowers 11mo ago
      I would be more inclined to check and see if someone’s dream revelation was correct than be a human search engine for people that don’t want to use one.
thegreatpeter 11mo ago
If you google any article about eland it literally says they use tesla batteries that were built here in the US i think tesla has built MOST of the capacity

hagbard_c 11mo ago

That information does not fit the narrative so it is left unsaid.

JumpCrisscross 11mo ago
> That information does not fit the narrative so it is left unsaid This is a good opportunity to calibrate your sense of truth. The LA Times is owned by this South African-born immigrant [1]. (Himself the the son of "Chinese immigrant parents who fled China during the Japanese occupation.") He is, like Elon, pro-Trump (after, like Musk, supporting Democrats when they were in power) [2]. And he, like Elon, has censored his publication to reflect his views, including by opposing anti-Musk content [3]. If you're reading an article in the LA Times and, being upset it isn't mentioning Tesla, concluding it's part of an anti-Musk conspiracy, you're dead wrong. But you're probably also wrong about other adjacent hypotheses. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Soon-Shiong https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Soon-Shiong [2] https://www.politico.com/news/2025/05/13/la-times-owner-maneuvers-into-trumps-orbit-with-middle-east-meeting-00346991 https://www.politico.com/news/2025/05/13/la-times-owner-mane... [3] https://www.status.news/p/los-angeles-times-patrick-soon-shiong https://www.status.news/p/los-angeles-times-patrick-soon-shi...
- nandomrumber 11mo ago
  It does mention another battery manufacturer, Spark. Where do they fit in to the narrative?
  - JumpCrisscross 11mo ago
    > Where do they fit in to the narrative? What narrative? If you're saying even a pro-Trump pro-Elon newspaper whose owner has a history of weighing in for Musk has a bias against him, you're saying Elon's massively lost not only standing but also sympathy across the aisle. If that's true, his companies are toast. That doesn't seem to be the case. So maybe revisit the hypothesis when the data reject it.
- roman_soldier 11mo ago

nandomrumber 11mo ago

Interesting how the only dollar figure mentioned in the article is about money the Trump administration has put up to refurbish coal plants.

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