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China is a mixed bad, they also lead the world in new coal power plants. https://www.npr.org/2023/03/02/1160441919/china-is-building-six-times-more-new-coal-pl

China is a mixed bad, they also lead the world in new coal power plants. https://www.npr.org/2023/03/02/1160441919/china-is-building-six-times-more-new-coal-plants-than-other-countries-report-fin https://www.npr.org/2023/03/02/1160441919/china-is-building-...

fellowniusmonk 1y ago
Less mixed than the states, more manufacturing and install momentum for renewables and far lower kwh install costs. So many people told me 10 years ago we shouldn't even bother trying to reduce global emissions because China would burn us all to the ground. So many brain dead takes.
- Mistletoe 1y ago
  Now I just think about where those takes started and all roads always lead back to the same culprits. Your parents and the hillbillies don’t come up with these takes on their own, they always starts somewhere and benefit the person whispering it in their ear. https://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2025/10/the-pivot-1.html https://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2025/10/the-piv... > The EU also hit a landmark in 2025, with more than 50% of its electricity coming from renewables by late summer. > This has not gone unnoticed by the fossil fuel industry, which is collectively shitting itself. After a couple of centuries of prospecting we know pretty much where all the oil, coal, and gas reserves are buried in the ground. (Another hint about Ukraine: Ukraine is sitting on top of over 670 billion cubic metres of natural gas: to the dictator of a neighbouring resource-extraction economy this must have been quite a draw.) The constant propaganda and astroturfed campaigns advocating against belief in climate change must be viewed in this light: by 2040 at the latest, those coal, gas, and oil land rights must be regarded as stranded assets that can't be monetized, and the land rights probably have a book value measured in trillions of dollars.
_aavaa_ 1y ago
Just because they built it doesn't mean it gets used: https://www.carbonbrief.org/guest-post-why-china-is-still-building-new-coal-and-when-it-might-stop/ https://www.carbonbrief.org/guest-post-why-china-is-still-bu...
tootie 1y ago
That's 2023. As of today they are expected to hit peak fossil fuel usage and start declining within the year. https://www.climatechangenews.com/2025/09/09/china-on-course-to-peak-fossil-fuel-power-as-soon-as-this-year-reports-say/ https://www.climatechangenews.com/2025/09/09/china-on-course...
standardUser 1y ago
The expectation being that they should instead endure energy shortages for the common good until their renewable installations catch up with demand? A high bar, especially for a nation with a greater share of its electricity from renewables than most US states.
rhubarbtree 1y ago
And smashing everything in Nuclear, whilst America turns to fossil fuels. Much as I am against autocracy and oppression, china is doing very well at improving their energy sector.
- landl0rd 1y ago
  Much as I have problems with current administration, Chris Wright is doing an outstanding job working with industry to push forward next-gen nuclear. I have a lot of well-founded hope for huge progress assuming the next Secretary of Energy continues with this and the NRC backs off just a little.
- BurningFrog 1y ago
  The US system of decades of environmental review before any energy project can maybe proceed can also be considered a form of oppression.
  - IAmBroom 11mo ago
    That's a great Fox News talking point. Data, please?
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tooltalk 1y ago
China is adding new coal capacity roughly equal to America's entire coal capacity by the end of next year, or 180GW. These new installations don't replace old coal plants -- in H1 2025, China decomissioned only about 1GW. China is also increasing their coal footprint outside China despite their pledge not to[1]. 1. China Helped Indonesia Build One of the World’s Biggest, Youngest Coal Fleets. It’s Still Growing, Nicholas Kusnetz, data analysis by Peter Aldhous, Inside Climate News, Oct 19, 2025
- nextworddev 1y ago
  Not sure why you are downvoted. Theres bot rings everywhere on the internet that downvote anything that mentions Chinese emissions
Peanuts99 1y ago
China is also the world leader in closing coal power plants too.
- IAmBroom 11mo ago
  Which is meaningless unless they are closing more than they are opening.

fellowniusmonk 1y ago

Less mixed than the states, more manufacturing and install momentum for renewables and far lower kwh install costs. So many people told me 10 years ago we shouldn't even bother trying to reduce global emissions because China would burn us all to the ground. So many brain dead takes.

Mistletoe 1y ago
Now I just think about where those takes started and all roads always lead back to the same culprits. Your parents and the hillbillies don’t come up with these takes on their own, they always starts somewhere and benefit the person whispering it in their ear. https://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2025/10/the-pivot-1.html https://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2025/10/the-piv... > The EU also hit a landmark in 2025, with more than 50% of its electricity coming from renewables by late summer. > This has not gone unnoticed by the fossil fuel industry, which is collectively shitting itself. After a couple of centuries of prospecting we know pretty much where all the oil, coal, and gas reserves are buried in the ground. (Another hint about Ukraine: Ukraine is sitting on top of over 670 billion cubic metres of natural gas: to the dictator of a neighbouring resource-extraction economy this must have been quite a draw.) The constant propaganda and astroturfed campaigns advocating against belief in climate change must be viewed in this light: by 2040 at the latest, those coal, gas, and oil land rights must be regarded as stranded assets that can't be monetized, and the land rights probably have a book value measured in trillions of dollars.

_aavaa_ 1y ago

Just because they built it doesn't mean it gets used: https://www.carbonbrief.org/guest-post-why-china-is-still-building-new-coal-and-when-it-might-stop/ https://www.carbonbrief.org/guest-post-why-china-is-still-bu...

tootie 1y ago

That's 2023. As of today they are expected to hit peak fossil fuel usage and start declining within the year. https://www.climatechangenews.com/2025/09/09/china-on-course-to-peak-fossil-fuel-power-as-soon-as-this-year-reports-say/ https://www.climatechangenews.com/2025/09/09/china-on-course...

standardUser 1y ago

The expectation being that they should instead endure energy shortages for the common good until their renewable installations catch up with demand? A high bar, especially for a nation with a greater share of its electricity from renewables than most US states.

rhubarbtree 1y ago

And smashing everything in Nuclear, whilst America turns to fossil fuels. Much as I am against autocracy and oppression, china is doing very well at improving their energy sector.

landl0rd 1y ago
Much as I have problems with current administration, Chris Wright is doing an outstanding job working with industry to push forward next-gen nuclear. I have a lot of well-founded hope for huge progress assuming the next Secretary of Energy continues with this and the NRC backs off just a little.
BurningFrog 1y ago
The US system of decades of environmental review before any energy project can maybe proceed can also be considered a form of oppression.
- IAmBroom 11mo ago
  That's a great Fox News talking point. Data, please?
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tooltalk 1y ago

China is adding new coal capacity roughly equal to America's entire coal capacity by the end of next year, or 180GW. These new installations don't replace old coal plants -- in H1 2025, China decomissioned only about 1GW. China is also increasing their coal footprint outside China despite their pledge not to[1]. 1. China Helped Indonesia Build One of the World’s Biggest, Youngest Coal Fleets. It’s Still Growing, Nicholas Kusnetz, data analysis by Peter Aldhous, Inside Climate News, Oct 19, 2025

nextworddev 1y ago
Not sure why you are downvoted. Theres bot rings everywhere on the internet that downvote anything that mentions Chinese emissions

Peanuts99 1y ago

China is also the world leader in closing coal power plants too.

IAmBroom 11mo ago
Which is meaningless unless they are closing more than they are opening.