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I don't think access to equipment is a good qualifier. Nor should "vulnerable" and "protected" be conflated. More important is whether membership in the group

I don't think access to equipment is a good qualifier. Nor should "vulnerable" and "protected" be conflated. More important is whether membership in the group is based on something that harms others. Let's protect people who want to be left alone so they can pursue their passions in peaceful ways. As for those who want to be left alone so they can kidnap and bully--lets ensure they're as vulnerable as possible until they change their ways.

aftbit 1y ago
Who has access to tanks _and_ needs to be protected from citizen reports on their activity? I'm not conflating the two - Google told 404 Media they were a vulnerable group, while Apple applied a guideline that has previously been used on protected classes, which it seems Migrant Insider interpreted as: >The decision effectively treats federal immigration agents as a protected class — a novel interpretation of Apple’s hate-speech policy that shields one of the most powerful arms of government from public scrutiny. Google: https://www.404media.co/google-calls-ice-agents-a-vulnerable-group-removes-ice-spotting-app-red-dot/ https://www.404media.co/google-calls-ice-agents-a-vulnerable... Apple: https://migrantinsider.com/p/scoop-apple-quietly-made-ice-agents https://migrantinsider.com/p/scoop-apple-quietly-made-ice-ag... though that link seems dead so archive.org to the rescue: https://web.archive.org/web/20251010134146/https://migrantinsider.com/p/scoop-apple-quietly-made-ice-agents https://web.archive.org/web/20251010134146/https://migrantin...
- __MatrixMan__ 1y ago
  It sounds like you're saying that they are not vulnerable. But that's just defeatist. Just because they have tanks doesn't mean they don't have vulnerabilities. When they go home from work they shop at the same grocery stores that we do, walk in the same parks, etc... There are plenty of opportunities to make them feel uncomfortable about what they're doing that we can and should be taking advantage of. Whether they deserve legal protections from such activity is a totally orthogonal issue. I don't think they should--not in excess of any protections that the law offers anyone else. But that assessment has nothing to do with whether they drive a tank when they're at work.

aftbit 1y ago

Who has access to tanks _and_ needs to be protected from citizen reports on their activity? I'm not conflating the two - Google told 404 Media they were a vulnerable group, while Apple applied a guideline that has previously been used on protected classes, which it seems Migrant Insider interpreted as: >The decision effectively treats federal immigration agents as a protected class — a novel interpretation of Apple’s hate-speech policy that shields one of the most powerful arms of government from public scrutiny. Google: https://www.404media.co/google-calls-ice-agents-a-vulnerable-group-removes-ice-spotting-app-red-dot/ https://www.404media.co/google-calls-ice-agents-a-vulnerable... Apple: https://migrantinsider.com/p/scoop-apple-quietly-made-ice-agents https://migrantinsider.com/p/scoop-apple-quietly-made-ice-ag... though that link seems dead so archive.org to the rescue: https://web.archive.org/web/20251010134146/https://migrantinsider.com/p/scoop-apple-quietly-made-ice-agents https://web.archive.org/web/20251010134146/https://migrantin...

__MatrixMan__ 1y ago
It sounds like you're saying that they are not vulnerable. But that's just defeatist. Just because they have tanks doesn't mean they don't have vulnerabilities. When they go home from work they shop at the same grocery stores that we do, walk in the same parks, etc... There are plenty of opportunities to make them feel uncomfortable about what they're doing that we can and should be taking advantage of. Whether they deserve legal protections from such activity is a totally orthogonal issue. I don't think they should--not in excess of any protections that the law offers anyone else. But that assessment has nothing to do with whether they drive a tank when they're at work.