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A bunch of reasons. 1. Napoleon's goal was to pursue and defeat the Russian army in the field, not necessarily capture cities. Going north would have meant rel
by cpleppert 11mo ago
A bunch of reasons.
1. Napoleon's goal was to pursue and defeat the Russian army in the field, not necessarily capture cities. Going north would have meant releasing the pressure on the main russian field armies and let them engage his main force at their discretion while exposing his flank.
2. St. Petersburg remained the political and economic capital of Russia; St. Petersburg never displaced Moscow in real world importance.
3. St. Petersburg was shielded from land and sea with prepared fortifications on both and Napoleon lacked a fleet to effectively blockade it.
4. Its in the middle of a very dense forest and swamp, not the the best logistics and ability to maintain a siege.
The Nazis made the same choice in WWII and even though they were able to control the Baltics and had Finland as an ally never seriously threatened to take the city.
- hunterpayne 11mo ago> The Nazis made the same choice in WWII and even though they were able to control the Baltics and had Finland as an ally never seriously threatened to take the city. There was an 18 month siege of SP during WWII. SP starved and people there resorted to cannibalism to survive. I don't remember if it was ever taken but the Germans definitely tried to. And the situation there was ghoulish, so even if they didn't, they almost did.
- cryptonector 11mo agoSP was never taken by the axis.
- lostlogin 11mo agoNever taken, but it was a city in the Axis alliance while Russian and Germany carved up Poland.
- cryptonector 11mo agoI know no one who considers the USSR to have been an Axis power between the start of the war and Operation Barbarossa.
- lostlogin 11mo agoYou're correct and I'm wrong. Germany started negotiating Russia joining but this seems to have been disingenuous from Germany and part of the lead in to the attack on Russia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German–Soviet_Axis_talks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German–Soviet_Axis_talks
- cryptonector 11mo agoIt's more complicated than that. Go have a listen of the Mannerheim tape with Hitler. Hitler basically confesses to Mannerheim that Stalin was blackmailing Hitler with oil and that this was the casus belli for Hitler, but then Hitler had no idea of Stalin's tank manufacturing prowess and he says that if he had known he wouldn't have invaded Russia. Super interesting. You get the impression that though Hitler hated Russia and Russians, it was events that led to Barbarossa rather than Hitler's long-term plan -- things got away from his control real quick.
- cryptonector 11mo agoOn the other hand, read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German%E2%80%93Soviet_Axis_talks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German%E2%80%93Soviet_Axis_tal... I wonder just how explicit Stalin's oil blackmail was.
- ciupicri 11mo agoWasn't Moscow the capital of Russia during WW II?
- mkl 11mo agoYes. It became capital again in 1918 (Saint Petersburg had become capital in 1712).