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So 2025 is going to be the “Year of Linux on the Desktop”?

cbm-vic-20 1y ago
"Linux on the Desktop" is great. I've been using it since 1994. "Linux on the Laptop" sucks- I just want my laptop to sleep and awake properly, without draining the battery. I'm old enough that I'm done spending time twiddling kernel parameters in an attempt to get all of the onboard devices working, including sleep.
- raw_anon_1111 1y ago
  “Linux on the Desktop” is a 30 year old meme about this being the year that people will leave Microsoft en masse and install Linux.
- trenchpilgrim 1y ago
  > I just want my laptop to sleep and awake properly, without draining the battery. To be fair this is _also_ a massive problem on Windows too, because of Windows Modern Standby encouraging laptop makers to replace ol' reliable S3 sleep with the terribly broken modern standby stuff. Macbooks and certain Framework models are the only laptops left with reliable sleep. Old video but nothing's really improved since: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHKKcd3sx2c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHKKcd3sx2c
  - whatevaa 1y ago
    Not a laptop, but steam deck sleeps perfectly. So it's not a Linux problem, but a laptop problem.
    - CaptainOfCoit 1y ago
      Meanwhile, Microsofts cannot even get their own Surface line with Windows on them to not wake up while in your backpack.
    - xethos 1y ago
      Hell, my Pinephone Pro slept perfectly well as well. Beta-level hardware without a major company behind it, and sleep still worked reliably. At this point I expect sleep to work better on Linux than Windows machines.
- NaomiLehman 1y ago
  I just want a laptop that has almost zero latency between the CPU and RAM and at least 300GB/s RAM bandwidth for data science. Not much choice there, unfortunately.
willis936 1y ago
I know many people (myself included) that stopped using Windows altogether this year. Even accounting for biases, this is a very bad year for Microsoft.
- raw_anon_1111 1y ago
  “People you know” is anecdotal. We can look at broad base market share trends.
  - willis936 1y ago
    We don't have that data. You are quibbling on sample size but making no argument on effects. Make the case that this is a good year for Microsoft.
    - pjmlp 1y ago
      We have the data, it is about 4% market share of people on planet Earth using GNU/Linux desktops. https://www.accio.com/business/operating-system-market-share-trend https://www.accio.com/business/operating-system-market-share...
      - willis936 1y ago
        "March 2025" is not indicative of what happened in 2025.
dehrmann 1y ago
When the desktop environments unite and a single distro rises up as champion, the year is nigh.

"Linux on the Desktop" is great. I've been using it since 1994. "Linux on the Laptop" sucks- I just want my laptop to sleep and awake properly, without draining the battery. I'm old enough that I'm done spending time twiddling kernel parameters in an attempt to get all of the onboard devices working, including sleep.

raw_anon_1111 1y ago
“Linux on the Desktop” is a 30 year old meme about this being the year that people will leave Microsoft en masse and install Linux.
trenchpilgrim 1y ago
> I just want my laptop to sleep and awake properly, without draining the battery. To be fair this is _also_ a massive problem on Windows too, because of Windows Modern Standby encouraging laptop makers to replace ol' reliable S3 sleep with the terribly broken modern standby stuff. Macbooks and certain Framework models are the only laptops left with reliable sleep. Old video but nothing's really improved since: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHKKcd3sx2c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHKKcd3sx2c
- whatevaa 1y ago
  Not a laptop, but steam deck sleeps perfectly. So it's not a Linux problem, but a laptop problem.
  - CaptainOfCoit 1y ago
    Meanwhile, Microsofts cannot even get their own Surface line with Windows on them to not wake up while in your backpack.
  - xethos 1y ago
    Hell, my Pinephone Pro slept perfectly well as well. Beta-level hardware without a major company behind it, and sleep still worked reliably. At this point I expect sleep to work better on Linux than Windows machines.
NaomiLehman 1y ago
I just want a laptop that has almost zero latency between the CPU and RAM and at least 300GB/s RAM bandwidth for data science. Not much choice there, unfortunately.

willis936 1y ago

I know many people (myself included) that stopped using Windows altogether this year. Even accounting for biases, this is a very bad year for Microsoft.

raw_anon_1111 1y ago
“People you know” is anecdotal. We can look at broad base market share trends.
- willis936 1y ago
  We don't have that data. You are quibbling on sample size but making no argument on effects. Make the case that this is a good year for Microsoft.
  - pjmlp 1y ago
    We have the data, it is about 4% market share of people on planet Earth using GNU/Linux desktops. https://www.accio.com/business/operating-system-market-share-trend https://www.accio.com/business/operating-system-market-share...
    - willis936 1y ago
      "March 2025" is not indicative of what happened in 2025.

dehrmann 1y ago

When the desktop environments unite and a single distro rises up as champion, the year is nigh.