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Underdetermined Weaving with Machines (2021) [video]

47 points by akkartik 1y ago

edding4500 1y ago
Cool video, I just learned how the Denim pattern is made :D
stigok 1y ago
Worth a watch. She has built a home-made loom with automation using Arduino and 3D-printer parts. It is pretty brilliant! Excerpt from the video description: > A computer-controlled handloom is a hybrid fabrication tool: while the loom greatly speeds the process of weaving by precisely selecting threads for a pattern, a human weaver is present and involved for the entire process. Like any computational tool, such a loom can embody both expert precision and fluidly emergent outcomes; “the trick” is in crafting generative logics that mediate the material constraints of the weaving process to support technically elaborate outcomes, spur creativity, or generate delight. Lea will discuss historical and contemporary tactics for algorithmic and improvisational handweaving, including her own work on personal interactive jacquard weaving systems.
dang 1y ago
(This was originally posted a week ago, but I spawned a new copy so as to put it in the second-chance pool (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26998308 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26998308). That's why the first two comments look older than their parents.)
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kbr2000 1y ago
Ralph Griswold (also known for the Icon programming language [0]), started the On-Line Digital Archive of Documents on Weaving and Related Topics [1] at the time, a gem. [0] https://www2.cs.arizona.edu/icon/ https://www2.cs.arizona.edu/icon/ [1] https://www2.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/index.html https://www2.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/index.html
gsf_emergency_4 1y ago
Papers: https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5fc1dbf8116eb00e3c52b568/t/5fc5e1513c02f22b9dd814a3/1606803794499/underdetermined_computational_handweaving.pdf https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5fc1dbf8116eb00e3c52b... https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5fc1dbf8116eb00e3c52b568/t/60a99e48e2bd592790c759fe/1621728841807/jacquardloomdesktop.pdf https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5fc1dbf8116eb00e3c52b... https://morphingmatter.org/member/lea-albaugh https://morphingmatter.org/member/lea-albaugh Shorter video: https://dl.acm.org/doi/suppl/10.1145/3357236.3395538/suppl_file/disfp8864.mp4 https://dl.acm.org/doi/suppl/10.1145/3357236.3395538/suppl_f... Weaving and matmul https://youtu.be/oMOSiag3dxg https://youtu.be/oMOSiag3dxg Inspired: https://sminliwu.github.io/projects/LoomPedals/ https://sminliwu.github.io/projects/LoomPedals/ Related: (AdaCAD) https://dl.acm.org/doi/fullHtml/10.1145/3544548.3581571 https://dl.acm.org/doi/fullHtml/10.1145/3544548.3581571
gsf_emergency_4 1y ago
Live-coding.. but with REAL threads Show starts at 48s in this shorter video: https://dl.acm.org/doi/suppl/10.1145/3357236.3395538/suppl_file/disfp8864.mp4 https://dl.acm.org/doi/suppl/10.1145/3357236.3395538/suppl_f...
hermitcrab 1y ago
I believe the idea of storing a computer program on paper tape came from looms and weaving. (might be covered in the video, I only skimmed it)
- 0134340 1y ago
  I recall discovering this in a BBC documentary. Can't find it but here's a quick video on it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQzpLLhN0fY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQzpLLhN0fY
  - hermitcrab 1y ago
    Cool video. If Babbage had been a bit less flakey we might have ended up with steam powered computers!
zokier 1y ago
I think she poses an interesting question but does not really answer it in satisfying manner; feels like she might have gotten lost in the weeds building her own looms and electronics so only small part ended up exploring what seems like the main topic: what would be an expressive interface or interaction model for weaving? I see parallels here with audio synthesizers; (modern) synths can produce any audio imaginable, the main problem is how do you find the good sounds to make music and how do you control them. Same problem appears here, modern loom can produce any weave imaginable, but how do you do something interesting with that?
- gsf_emergency_4 1y ago
  https://youtu.be/DIBcBHc5His?t=3m55s https://youtu.be/DIBcBHc5His?t=3m55s Chapter: Interactive weaving [collaborative] See how she moves like a DJ there? I think these academic style talks do her work a dis-service

47 points by akkartik 1y ago

Cool video, I just learned how the Denim pattern is made :D

Worth a watch. She has built a home-made loom with automation using Arduino and 3D-printer parts. It is pretty brilliant! Excerpt from the video description: > A computer-controlled handloom is a hybrid fabrication tool: while the loom greatly speeds the process of weaving by precisely selecting threads for a pattern, a human weaver is present and involved for the entire process. Like any computational tool, such a loom can embody both expert precision and fluidly emergent outcomes; “the trick” is in crafting generative logics that mediate the material constraints of the weaving process to support technically elaborate outcomes, spur creativity, or generate delight. Lea will discuss historical and contemporary tactics for algorithmic and improvisational handweaving, including her own work on personal interactive jacquard weaving systems.

dang 1y ago

(This was originally posted a week ago, but I spawned a new copy so as to put it in the second-chance pool (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26998308 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26998308). That's why the first two comments look older than their parents.)

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kbr2000 1y ago

Ralph Griswold (also known for the Icon programming language [0]), started the On-Line Digital Archive of Documents on Weaving and Related Topics [1] at the time, a gem. [0] https://www2.cs.arizona.edu/icon/ https://www2.cs.arizona.edu/icon/ [1] https://www2.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/index.html https://www2.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/index.html

gsf_emergency_4 1y ago

Papers: https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5fc1dbf8116eb00e3c52b568/t/5fc5e1513c02f22b9dd814a3/1606803794499/underdetermined_computational_handweaving.pdf https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5fc1dbf8116eb00e3c52b... https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5fc1dbf8116eb00e3c52b568/t/60a99e48e2bd592790c759fe/1621728841807/jacquardloomdesktop.pdf https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5fc1dbf8116eb00e3c52b... https://morphingmatter.org/member/lea-albaugh https://morphingmatter.org/member/lea-albaugh Shorter video: https://dl.acm.org/doi/suppl/10.1145/3357236.3395538/suppl_file/disfp8864.mp4 https://dl.acm.org/doi/suppl/10.1145/3357236.3395538/suppl_f... Weaving and matmul https://youtu.be/oMOSiag3dxg https://youtu.be/oMOSiag3dxg Inspired: https://sminliwu.github.io/projects/LoomPedals/ https://sminliwu.github.io/projects/LoomPedals/ Related: (AdaCAD) https://dl.acm.org/doi/fullHtml/10.1145/3544548.3581571 https://dl.acm.org/doi/fullHtml/10.1145/3544548.3581571

gsf_emergency_4 1y ago

Live-coding.. but with REAL threads Show starts at 48s in this shorter video: https://dl.acm.org/doi/suppl/10.1145/3357236.3395538/suppl_file/disfp8864.mp4 https://dl.acm.org/doi/suppl/10.1145/3357236.3395538/suppl_f...

hermitcrab 1y ago

I believe the idea of storing a computer program on paper tape came from looms and weaving. (might be covered in the video, I only skimmed it)

0134340 1y ago
I recall discovering this in a BBC documentary. Can't find it but here's a quick video on it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQzpLLhN0fY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQzpLLhN0fY
- hermitcrab 1y ago
  Cool video. If Babbage had been a bit less flakey we might have ended up with steam powered computers!

zokier 1y ago

I think she poses an interesting question but does not really answer it in satisfying manner; feels like she might have gotten lost in the weeds building her own looms and electronics so only small part ended up exploring what seems like the main topic: what would be an expressive interface or interaction model for weaving? I see parallels here with audio synthesizers; (modern) synths can produce any audio imaginable, the main problem is how do you find the good sounds to make music and how do you control them. Same problem appears here, modern loom can produce any weave imaginable, but how do you do something interesting with that?

gsf_emergency_4 1y ago
https://youtu.be/DIBcBHc5His?t=3m55s https://youtu.be/DIBcBHc5His?t=3m55s Chapter: Interactive weaving [collaborative] See how she moves like a DJ there? I think these academic style talks do her work a dis-service