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Has his opinion changed on Mac at all over the years?

• analog31 1y ago
  At that time was he talking about 68k or Intel Mac? I had a Power Mac.
  • slater 1y ago
    This is from 1997, so PowerPPC + System 7 or w/e, not OS X
    • emmelaich 1y ago
      Possibly https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A/UX https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A/UX but then again probably not.
      • wmf 1y ago
        A/UX was never mainstream and nobody called it MacOS. Carmack was definitely talking about MacOS 7/8/9 in this context.
• bluGill 1y ago
  This was pre OSX so it is a safe assumption. OSX is sortof nextstep for the masses, but the differences might be things he cares about.
• tracerbulletx 1y ago
  MacOS is NEXTStep.
  • SoftTalker 1y ago
    MacOS X and later, yes. MacOS 9 and earlier entirely different, even though some of the look and feel was ported to OS X.
    • tracerbulletx 1y ago
      I assumed it would be clear from context I meant in the present day. It's just called macOS now again.
  • flohofwoe 1y ago
    MacOS definitely wasn't, but macOS is (formerly known as OSX) ;)
• grg0 1y ago
  Why does this matter to you at all? It's funny to see all the Mac apologizer comments having to clarify that "oh no, but that Mac was so different". As if the modern incantation is any better; we just had a thread two days ago of how absolutely botched it is from a UI/UX perspective, and the hardware is the most anti-hacker, anti-consumer, DRM-riddled thing in existence if you watch any of that Ross boy's channel. > If I can convince apple to do a good hardware accelerated OpenGL in rhapsody Yeah, that comment aged well. Mac users are still waiting for full OpenGL 4.6 compliance and that spec is already ten years old. Edit: of course, I will get down-voted despite laying out very basic facts. Happens every time you poke the dogma bee's nest. Edit edit: I am still genuinely curious why the man's opinion from 30 years ago apparently matters to you that much. I'd like to understand the psychology behind it if you would care to write a response.
  • taejavu 1y ago
    I mean, why does it matter to you that some random internet commenter is curious what John Carmack thinks about macOS?
  • analog31 1y ago
    For me, it's just historical curiosity. I lived through that era, but had no hope of getting actual exposure to all of those OS's. I went from MS-DOS to 68k Mac, to Win95. I can't even claim to have been particularly prescient about any of those choices.
    • grg0 1y ago
      Yeah, for sure. It's interesting to read about what developers thought of OSes or programming languages of yore, especially from Carmack. But GP is already begging for praise on Mac or something.
  • JojoFatsani 1y ago
    I downvote anybody who complains about getting downvoted personally
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• commandersaki 1y ago
  He presented a quake 3 port on Mac at one of the Apple events with Steve Jobs on stage.
  • flohofwoe 1y ago
    That doesn't mean much though, big games are presented every couple of years on Apple events, doesn't mean that anybody respects the Mac as a gaming platform (including Mac users and most importantly: Apple).
    • commandersaki 1y ago
      I think its fair to say he changed his position considering he explicitly says he wouldn't develop for MacOS but did for OSX.