It took a while for me to fully set up Nextcloud with STUN/TURN, Office server, etc. in a properly containerised setup. It clearly felt like it was built before

It took a while for me to fully set up Nextcloud with STUN/TURN, Office server, etc. in a properly containerised setup. It clearly felt like it was built before containers and modern devops approaches were a best practice. And while community is great, I don't think Nextcloud developer community is that big and active. Their plugin system is basic, archaic, lots of things there are begging for rework. So while Nextcloud is decent once set up, I am happy to see some fresh OSS projects solving similar issues appear. Maybe their approach will be better.