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All of this, including the video, is hearsay. That is, it is unauthenticated. Not a single part of the title is confirmed. Neither us nor the author apparentl

All of this, including the video, is hearsay. That is, it is unauthenticated. Not a single part of the title is confirmed. Neither us nor the author apparently know whether the men shown were real FBI agents. Con men operate the same way - wave a badge and pretend to be someone.

esseph 1y ago
I have 0 reason to believe this didn't happen. People are jumping out of unmarked vehicles with masks on and grabbing people. We are getting closer every day to violent times.
- giardini 1y ago
  We are getting closer every day to Halloween!8-))
  - ThrowMeAway1618 1y ago
    “Never believe that anti-Semites [or in this case, fascist apologists] are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.” ― Jean-Paul Sartre[0] [0] https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/7870768-never-believe-that-anti-semites-are-completely-unaware-of-the-absurdity https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/7870768-never-believe-that-...
cosmicgadget 1y ago
> According to Serafini, the two FBI agents showed him photos of himself at the protest as well as several other protesters — people he knew nothing about. All this work plus the risk of a charge of impersonating a federal agent... and they didn't ask him for money. Deep grift.
hypeatei 1y ago
So these FBI imposters knew he went to a protest, where he lives, and want to ask questions? If they were criminals, wouldn't they want something from him? This comment reads to me like you understand the implications and it makes you uncomfortable so you're deflecting with nonsense. Let's assume they're real FBI agents: what do you think of this action?
- giardini 1y ago
  No, no, no, and not necessarily. Didn't bother, no, no. And why should we assume anything? No. I'm just tired of BS "news" stories. We need better reporting and part of that is verification.
  - hypeatei 1y ago
    > No. I'm just tired of BS "news" stories. What about this story makes it "BS"? Your comment(s) provide no rebuttals or anything to discredit this story. It doesn't sound like you're a skeptic, more like you'd made your up mind prior to reading the article. > why should we assume anything Because discarding something as fake news is not good faith. Believe it not, you can simultaneously be skeptical and engage with the content of the article. The question still stands: what do you think about the FBI going to a protestors house to ask him questions about it? > We need better reporting and part of that is verification. He tried reaching out to the FBI but they declined to comment due to the ongoing government shutdown as noted in the article. What level of "verification" would make you happy?
    - giardini 1y ago
      Most stories are BS. There is no onus upon me to provide "rebuttals or anything". I am a skeptic. There is no requirement to presume/assume "good faith". Do you accept part or all of the entire post as factual? If so, based on what exactly? "Good faith"?
      - hypeatei 1y ago
        > Most stories are BS. Maybe in your bubble that's true. > There is no requirement to presume/assume "good faith". You're not answering anything with substance. Yes, it's a convienent strategy to assume everything is fake news when it doesn't fit your narrative. But that's not reality and it's pretty obvious that you're deflecting. > Do you accept part or all of the entire post as factual? Yes, he's an independent journalist that's reported on some big stories this year already. Given the actions against civil rights we've seen already from this administration, sending FBI agents to ask questions is certainly tame by comparison and very plausible.

esseph 1y ago

I have 0 reason to believe this didn't happen. People are jumping out of unmarked vehicles with masks on and grabbing people. We are getting closer every day to violent times.

giardini 1y ago
We are getting closer every day to Halloween!8-))
- ThrowMeAway1618 1y ago
  “Never believe that anti-Semites [or in this case, fascist apologists] are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.” ― Jean-Paul Sartre[0] [0] https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/7870768-never-believe-that-anti-semites-are-completely-unaware-of-the-absurdity https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/7870768-never-believe-that-...

cosmicgadget 1y ago

> According to Serafini, the two FBI agents showed him photos of himself at the protest as well as several other protesters — people he knew nothing about. All this work plus the risk of a charge of impersonating a federal agent... and they didn't ask him for money. Deep grift.

hypeatei 1y ago

So these FBI imposters knew he went to a protest, where he lives, and want to ask questions? If they were criminals, wouldn't they want something from him? This comment reads to me like you understand the implications and it makes you uncomfortable so you're deflecting with nonsense. Let's assume they're real FBI agents: what do you think of this action?

giardini 1y ago
No, no, no, and not necessarily. Didn't bother, no, no. And why should we assume anything? No. I'm just tired of BS "news" stories. We need better reporting and part of that is verification.
- hypeatei 1y ago
  > No. I'm just tired of BS "news" stories. What about this story makes it "BS"? Your comment(s) provide no rebuttals or anything to discredit this story. It doesn't sound like you're a skeptic, more like you'd made your up mind prior to reading the article. > why should we assume anything Because discarding something as fake news is not good faith. Believe it not, you can simultaneously be skeptical and engage with the content of the article. The question still stands: what do you think about the FBI going to a protestors house to ask him questions about it? > We need better reporting and part of that is verification. He tried reaching out to the FBI but they declined to comment due to the ongoing government shutdown as noted in the article. What level of "verification" would make you happy?
  - giardini 1y ago
    Most stories are BS. There is no onus upon me to provide "rebuttals or anything". I am a skeptic. There is no requirement to presume/assume "good faith". Do you accept part or all of the entire post as factual? If so, based on what exactly? "Good faith"?
    - hypeatei 1y ago
      > Most stories are BS. Maybe in your bubble that's true. > There is no requirement to presume/assume "good faith". You're not answering anything with substance. Yes, it's a convienent strategy to assume everything is fake news when it doesn't fit your narrative. But that's not reality and it's pretty obvious that you're deflecting. > Do you accept part or all of the entire post as factual? Yes, he's an independent journalist that's reported on some big stories this year already. Given the actions against civil rights we've seen already from this administration, sending FBI agents to ask questions is certainly tame by comparison and very plausible.