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Using Nextcloud on the web feels like a state of the art 2015 PHP web UI. It is... fine. But compare it to immich for example and they're just not playing in th

Using Nextcloud on the web feels like a state of the art 2015 PHP web UI. It is... fine. But compare it to immich for example and they're just not playing in the same league imo

wobfan 1y ago
100%. Though their UI has been update a little with the last major release. > But compare it to immich for example and they're just not playing in the same league imo I mean, this doesn't make sense at all, tbf. They're literally not in the same league, as their targeting different use cases. Nextcloud offers a MUCH broader experience, while Immich has a very clear cut focus and does nothing outside of that. Comparing it doesn't make any sense. Except if you're actually talking about the UI exclusively. Then, yes, Immich feels much more modern and smooth.
- belinder 1y ago
  So what's the immich equivalent for file sharing
  - ianopolous 1y ago
    You might be interested in Peergos (https://peergos.org https://peergos.org) - creator here. An old write up is here: https://itsfoss.com/peergos/ https://itsfoss.com/peergos/
fletchowns 1y ago
I've been using Nextcloud for years, but I've never used the web UI. Windows desktop app for syncing my Documents folder, and Android app for synchronizing a few folders on my phone, as well as the "append only" upload of my photo reel that something like SyncThing doesn't support. Works great, never had any issues with Nextcloud. The real value is in the companion apps. I use a cron job to back up Nextcloud to B2 and S3 Glacier.
- magic_hamster 1y ago
  Couple of questions on your backups: How much storage do you use and how much does it cost? Have you ever tried restoring from Glacier?
  - fletchowns 1y ago
    I've got 18TB on Glacier and it costs $2.80/day I've only tested partial restores from Glacier since it is expensive. I've got a raidz2 array locally as insurance against having to restore from a backup.
    - brodock 1y ago
      A 18 Tb NAS harddrive is about 320 USD. A 2 bay unifi unas2 199. It pays off in one year. Restoring data from it is free.
      - alex_duf 1y ago
        It's potentially not off-site though, a house fire and it's gone
        mjevans 1y ago
        Trusted friend or family in another disaster zone is the model here.
      - motorest 1y ago
        > A 18 Tb NAS harddrive is about 320 USD. A 2 bay unifi unas2 199. It pays off in one year. Restoring data from it is free. That single 18TB HD is hardly safe from a disaster or even plain old hardware death, and it's a single point of failure. You need at least 3 times as many HDs to start to have something you can actually rely on to keep your data for 3-5years.
  - wkat4242 1y ago
    I use S3 glacier on Scaleway (European cloud provider). Storing about 3TB costs me about 7€ per month including VAT. I've had to restore 1TB in the past and it cost me around 10€. Not bad for a worst case scenario. They also do mini VPSes for 3€ per month with unlimited traffic. Really nice provider, I've used them for many years.

Using Nextcloud on the web feels like a state of the art 2015 PHP web UI. It is... fine. But compare it to immich for example and they're just not playing in the same league imo

wobfan 1y ago

100%. Though their UI has been update a little with the last major release. > But compare it to immich for example and they're just not playing in the same league imo I mean, this doesn't make sense at all, tbf. They're literally not in the same league, as their targeting different use cases. Nextcloud offers a MUCH broader experience, while Immich has a very clear cut focus and does nothing outside of that. Comparing it doesn't make any sense. Except if you're actually talking about the UI exclusively. Then, yes, Immich feels much more modern and smooth.

belinder 1y ago
So what's the immich equivalent for file sharing
- ianopolous 1y ago
  You might be interested in Peergos (https://peergos.org https://peergos.org) - creator here. An old write up is here: https://itsfoss.com/peergos/ https://itsfoss.com/peergos/

fletchowns 1y ago

I've been using Nextcloud for years, but I've never used the web UI. Windows desktop app for syncing my Documents folder, and Android app for synchronizing a few folders on my phone, as well as the "append only" upload of my photo reel that something like SyncThing doesn't support. Works great, never had any issues with Nextcloud. The real value is in the companion apps. I use a cron job to back up Nextcloud to B2 and S3 Glacier.

magic_hamster 1y ago
Couple of questions on your backups: How much storage do you use and how much does it cost? Have you ever tried restoring from Glacier?
- fletchowns 1y ago
  I've got 18TB on Glacier and it costs $2.80/day I've only tested partial restores from Glacier since it is expensive. I've got a raidz2 array locally as insurance against having to restore from a backup.
  - brodock 1y ago
    A 18 Tb NAS harddrive is about 320 USD. A 2 bay unifi unas2 199. It pays off in one year. Restoring data from it is free.
    - alex_duf 1y ago
      It's potentially not off-site though, a house fire and it's gone
      - mjevans 1y ago
        Trusted friend or family in another disaster zone is the model here.
    - motorest 1y ago
      > A 18 Tb NAS harddrive is about 320 USD. A 2 bay unifi unas2 199. It pays off in one year. Restoring data from it is free. That single 18TB HD is hardly safe from a disaster or even plain old hardware death, and it's a single point of failure. You need at least 3 times as many HDs to start to have something you can actually rely on to keep your data for 3-5years.
- wkat4242 1y ago
  I use S3 glacier on Scaleway (European cloud provider). Storing about 3TB costs me about 7€ per month including VAT. I've had to restore 1TB in the past and it cost me around 10€. Not bad for a worst case scenario. They also do mini VPSes for 3€ per month with unlimited traffic. Really nice provider, I've used them for many years.