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Censored is perhaps strong. But yes, it’ll likely get flagged for being off topic or get downranked because of arguing. Which I understand to an extent but I al

Censored is perhaps strong. But yes, it’ll likely get flagged for being off topic or get downranked because of arguing. Which I understand to an extent but I also feel like we’re approaching five alarm fire for democracy levels. When it’s too late a whole lot of people are going to look up from their terminals and say “huh? What’s going on? You know, I try to avoid anything too political.” EDIT: and it’s gone

slater 1y ago
It's gone from the front page. edit: and flagged...
- e584 1y ago
  It was at #2 minutes ago, ridiculous.
chews 1y ago
Flock security now get's Ring camera data so the YC sponsored panopticon is pretty much here now.
rolandog 1y ago
It's becoming increasingly harder to ignore the censorship happening on the front page. Which is understandable, given the rock and hard place that is current US dictatorship ... But, are there better platforms to discuss tech (and to discuss the misuse of tech, like the current thread)?
- bakies 1y ago
  unfortunate, but i'm thinking these rules keep this forum a good tech forum. I do like getting in here before the flag and check any comments that do get through.
- esseph 1y ago
  I think there should be an account setting to see/not see posts with some kind of tag, like "politics", "LLM", "product post", "ask hn", etc. Then people can choose what is in their feed without censoring extremely important topics with large impacts.
  - Freedom2 1y ago
    Ultimately the moderators have decided that these kind of posts are "not what the site is for". It's unlikely they'll implement some kind of filter as users can filter out what the moderators have decreed what they want the site to be.
    - esseph 1y ago
      Time to bail then. No reason to support this shit if the only thing "they" care about is making dollars.
  - johnnyanmac 1y ago
    That's what Tildes does. They even do subtags. Like this year politics.us was added for those who wanted to opt out of this in their feed But yes, I simply don't expect this place to be responsive to 90% of politics at this point. I can see how Silicon Valley leans very conservative in cases like this and how it swaya the tech industry as a whole.
- Jordan-117 1y ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/active https://news.ycombinator.com/active
  - exit 1y ago
    i wasn't aware of this feature - thank you for sharing it. with more awareness of /active perhaps these urgent political conversations can still survive on HN.
- johnnyanmac 1y ago
  I've been sounding alarm bells since the early DOGE days. The site just casts then off. Bluesky is probably the best place if you want to communicate directly with policy makers (ones who likely aren't assisting the regime). I personally talk about political stuff on Tildes as a smaller community that doesn't tolerate blatant hate. There's tech threads on Tildes as well, but to a lesser extent. I don't have a reddit accout, but I generally also just browse a few reddit subs to get the fist gist of any major news. Just for 15 minutes or so. Politics for general stuff, Law for oversteps (thoighthough these days there's a lot of overlap), economics and economy for any more trade war nonsense.
- paffdragon 1y ago
  Algolia can also be used as an alternative for the front page, it shows this at #6 for the past 24h https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=last24h&page=0&prefix=false&query=&sort=byPopularity&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=last24h&page=0&prefix=fals...
johnnyanmac 1y ago
Can't wait to see civil war declared and HN still tries to suppress that nothing is wrong (I pray this is wrong, but who knows at this point? I'd say we're already at 4 star alarm bells. I could finally use my favorite meme from Avatar: The Last Airbender "There is not War in America. [FLAGGED]"
cartoonworld 1y ago
This is relevant to HN because it is entirely possible that Flock Safety helped the FBI here. It's just as likely that mass cellular surveillance tools like IMSI catchers were used, and its a near certainly that social media and tech platforms germane to HN's audience (you (the reader) may work for one!) have also contributed to locating this person. These tools and the allowances we give LEO and being turned towards good-faith 1st amendment activities like carrying signs and freely assembling. At the same time, earlier this year Salt Typhoon showed us that geopolitical adversaries used these same tools in secret against our government and industry leaders (Like the ones you work for!) Important discussion to have.

slater 1y ago

It's gone from the front page. edit: and flagged...

e584 1y ago
It was at #2 minutes ago, ridiculous.

chews 1y ago

Flock security now get's Ring camera data so the YC sponsored panopticon is pretty much here now.

rolandog 1y ago

It's becoming increasingly harder to ignore the censorship happening on the front page. Which is understandable, given the rock and hard place that is current US dictatorship ... But, are there better platforms to discuss tech (and to discuss the misuse of tech, like the current thread)?

bakies 1y ago
unfortunate, but i'm thinking these rules keep this forum a good tech forum. I do like getting in here before the flag and check any comments that do get through.
esseph 1y ago
I think there should be an account setting to see/not see posts with some kind of tag, like "politics", "LLM", "product post", "ask hn", etc. Then people can choose what is in their feed without censoring extremely important topics with large impacts.
- Freedom2 1y ago
  Ultimately the moderators have decided that these kind of posts are "not what the site is for". It's unlikely they'll implement some kind of filter as users can filter out what the moderators have decreed what they want the site to be.
  - esseph 1y ago
    Time to bail then. No reason to support this shit if the only thing "they" care about is making dollars.
- johnnyanmac 1y ago
  That's what Tildes does. They even do subtags. Like this year politics.us was added for those who wanted to opt out of this in their feed But yes, I simply don't expect this place to be responsive to 90% of politics at this point. I can see how Silicon Valley leans very conservative in cases like this and how it swaya the tech industry as a whole.
Jordan-117 1y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/active https://news.ycombinator.com/active
- exit 1y ago
  i wasn't aware of this feature - thank you for sharing it. with more awareness of /active perhaps these urgent political conversations can still survive on HN.
johnnyanmac 1y ago
I've been sounding alarm bells since the early DOGE days. The site just casts then off. Bluesky is probably the best place if you want to communicate directly with policy makers (ones who likely aren't assisting the regime). I personally talk about political stuff on Tildes as a smaller community that doesn't tolerate blatant hate. There's tech threads on Tildes as well, but to a lesser extent. I don't have a reddit accout, but I generally also just browse a few reddit subs to get the fist gist of any major news. Just for 15 minutes or so. Politics for general stuff, Law for oversteps (thoighthough these days there's a lot of overlap), economics and economy for any more trade war nonsense.
paffdragon 1y ago
Algolia can also be used as an alternative for the front page, it shows this at #6 for the past 24h https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=last24h&page=0&prefix=false&query=&sort=byPopularity&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=last24h&page=0&prefix=fals...

johnnyanmac 1y ago

Can't wait to see civil war declared and HN still tries to suppress that nothing is wrong (I pray this is wrong, but who knows at this point? I'd say we're already at 4 star alarm bells. I could finally use my favorite meme from Avatar: The Last Airbender "There is not War in America. [FLAGGED]"

cartoonworld 1y ago

This is relevant to HN because it is entirely possible that Flock Safety helped the FBI here. It's just as likely that mass cellular surveillance tools like IMSI catchers were used, and its a near certainly that social media and tech platforms germane to HN's audience (you (the reader) may work for one!) have also contributed to locating this person. These tools and the allowances we give LEO and being turned towards good-faith 1st amendment activities like carrying signs and freely assembling. At the same time, earlier this year Salt Typhoon showed us that geopolitical adversaries used these same tools in secret against our government and industry leaders (Like the ones you work for!) Important discussion to have.