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You're typically not buying a Framework just because you like the hardware. Framework represents a political project, so you typically buy Framework because you
by mort96 1y ago
You're typically not buying a Framework just because you like the hardware. Framework represents a political project, so you typically buy Framework because you support their values and politics. I don't.
- phpnode 1y agoYou can rationalise your decision however you want, but to me it sounds like you're mad with the little guy for their lack of moral purity, but you're implicitly fine with a larger company doing much worse. That seems inconsistent at best.
- mort96 1y agoYou may find it inconsistent, and that's fine. But I do actually find it worse to buy from the explicitly political pro-fascist company than to buy from the "normal company" which just "incidentally" benefit fascist governments through their normal business operations.
- phpnode 1y agoI don’t see any mention of their explicit support for fascism on their homepage, can you justify this claim?
- mort96 1y agoThey haven't exactly been quiet about it. Here are some links; * https://x.com/FrameworkPuter/status/1960029405067313546 https://x.com/FrameworkPuter/status/1960029405067313546 * https://x.com/FrameworkPuter/status/1975721241345728683 https://x.com/FrameworkPuter/status/1975721241345728683 * https://bsky.app/profile/frame.work/post/3lvm6ahbrf22n https://bsky.app/profile/frame.work/post/3lvm6ahbrf22n * https://community.frame.work/t/framework-supporting-far-right-racists/75986/2 https://community.frame.work/t/framework-supporting-far-righ...
- Lammy 1y agoFascism is when Arch BTW
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- tomnipotent 1y agoSo in other words you've got nothing? There is literally nothing in your links that backs up your claims. So conferences in every western country should also not invite Chinese or Japanese speakers because they hold similar views to DHH? I'm so over this exhausting need to feel self-righteous.
- mort96 1y agoHm? My claim is that they back Omarchy and DHH, I think my links back that up?
- tomnipotent 1y agoAnd that is not a transitive property which then means Framework supports fascism. The US buys from China, does that mean we support communism?
- mort96 1y agoInternational trade is extremely complex, funding and publicizing a project is not. Framework supports DHH, both financially and in terms of publicity. That's not something I wanna support.
- Alupis 1y agoThe mental gymnastics and contortions you are putting yourself through are quite stunning. You're finding associations that do not exist. I feel I'm staring at a wall strewn with thumb-tacked red yarn, linking all sorts of nonsense together while the creator steps back and exclaims "see, proof!". Framework makes hardware and software. If you're going to close yourself off to any product or organization that happens to have some users you disagree with - then you're not going to get very far in this world. This is a wild, and frankly unhealthy perspective to hold.
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- Lammy 1y agoI bought my Framework 12 just because I like the hardware. It's so cute! And purple! The repairability is bonus.