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if you're going to hold Framework to that standard, wouldn't you also agree that buying a Lenovo machine would be indirectly supporting an authoritarian governm
by phpnode 11mo ago
if you're going to hold Framework to that standard, wouldn't you also agree that buying a Lenovo machine would be indirectly supporting an authoritarian government with a troubling human-rights record?
- timeon 11mo agoSure for similar reasons (+ few other) I'm moving away from Apple. Framework is no longer on my list.
- mort96 11mo agoYou're typically not buying a Framework just because you like the hardware. Framework represents a political project, so you typically buy Framework because you support their values and politics. I don't.
- phpnode 11mo agoYou can rationalise your decision however you want, but to me it sounds like you're mad with the little guy for their lack of moral purity, but you're implicitly fine with a larger company doing much worse. That seems inconsistent at best.
- mort96 11mo agoYou may find it inconsistent, and that's fine. But I do actually find it worse to buy from the explicitly political pro-fascist company than to buy from the "normal company" which just "incidentally" benefit fascist governments through their normal business operations.
- phpnode 11mo agoI don’t see any mention of their explicit support for fascism on their homepage, can you justify this claim?
- mort96 11mo agoThey haven't exactly been quiet about it. Here are some links; * https://x.com/FrameworkPuter/status/1960029405067313546 https://x.com/FrameworkPuter/status/1960029405067313546 * https://x.com/FrameworkPuter/status/1975721241345728683 https://x.com/FrameworkPuter/status/1975721241345728683 * https://bsky.app/profile/frame.work/post/3lvm6ahbrf22n https://bsky.app/profile/frame.work/post/3lvm6ahbrf22n * https://community.frame.work/t/framework-supporting-far-right-racists/75986/2 https://community.frame.work/t/framework-supporting-far-righ...
- Lammy 11mo agoFascism is when Arch BTW
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- tomnipotent 11mo agoSo in other words you've got nothing? There is literally nothing in your links that backs up your claims. So conferences in every western country should also not invite Chinese or Japanese speakers because they hold similar views to DHH? I'm so over this exhausting need to feel self-righteous.
- mort96 11mo agoHm? My claim is that they back Omarchy and DHH, I think my links back that up?
- tomnipotent 11mo agoAnd that is not a transitive property which then means Framework supports fascism. The US buys from China, does that mean we support communism?
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- Lammy 11mo agoI bought my Framework 12 just because I like the hardware. It's so cute! And purple! The repairability is bonus.