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On macOS you can use OrbStack [1] for a much better experience working with Docker on Mac, as well as quickly spinning up headless Linux VMs (WSL on Mac kind of
by simjnd 1y ago
On macOS you can use OrbStack [1] for a much better experience working with Docker on Mac, as well as quickly spinning up headless Linux VMs (WSL on Mac kind of thing). The free tier will probably be rug-pulled someday, but I've been using it for a couple of years and it makes my life a lot easier when I'm on macOS.
[1]: https://orbstack.dev/ https://orbstack.dev/
- mort96 1y agoAnd you're saying that this can set my WiFi card in promiscuous mode as if I was running Linux bare metal?
- simjnd 1y agoI'm not. You mentioned Docker and virtualisation and this tool has addressed most of my pain points with those, that's it.
- mort96 1y agoSounds like it doesn't address my pain points then...
- simjnd 1y agoIndeed, I misunderstood "Docker and virtualization isn't the same" as "Docker and virtualization on Mac is not as good as on Linux". Now I understand you meant "Docker and virtualizating Linux isn't the same as bare metal Linux".
- mort96 1y agoOh, I get the misunderstanding now. Yeah I meant that Docker and virtualization isn't the same as bare-metal Linux. Sorry for being a bit unclear
- carlosjobim 1y ago[flagged]
- cozzyd 1y agoYou can in principle use USB passthrough to do that on a USB WiFi card to do that, I believe, but sucks to carry around a USB dongle especially since macs seem to barely have USB ports... I'm happy with my AMD Thinkpad running Linux ...
- jbverschoor 1y agoOnly a few nics support promiscuous mode
- tgma 1y agoAll of these things are running Linux under virtualization and faking it to the Mac user and they naturally have all the same limitations as running a VM. They are effectively like WSL. P.S. I believe that specific company did some level of rug-pull early on already and started charging people who already relied on it for free because they left Docker which started charging earlier, so I would be vary of relying on them.
- jamesgeck0 1y agoNot a rugpull; monetization was at the top of the FAQ from the beginning. https://web.archive.org/web/20230331034854/https://docs.orbstack.dev/faq https://web.archive.org/web/20230331034854/https://docs.orbs...
- ninkendo 1y agoThem saying “we’re going to pull the rug” in advance doesn’t make it not a rug pull, it just means you have advanced notice of the rug pull.
- khamidou 1y agoHow is wanting to build software sustainably a rug pull? Like seriously, if you get value from orbstack, it's fair to pay them. Otherwise you can still stick to free alternatives like colima which would be CLI only
- ninkendo 1y agoI think the answers pretty obvious? A product is free. Then it isn’t free. You can argue all day whether it’s ok to do this, and I’d absolutely say it’s fine, even laudable that they’re trying to make a real business where you have to pay for a product. Great for them! But “rug pull” is absolutely still a correct description of what’s happening, because it was free, and now it’s not. Here’s a nice rug, but you have to get off of it by $DATE because we’re going to pull it. It’s a rug pull. If it wasn’t a rug pull, I’d be able to keep standing on the rug (the free version.)
- shepherdjerred 1y agoThere’s also https://github.com/apple/container https://github.com/apple/container now