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Unfortunately "ethics" can also be a sneaky way to insert "politics" into the curriculum.

kj4211cash 1y ago
I've never seen this. Is this some weird right wing talking point? I have seen a disconnect between what is covered in ethics classes and the types of scenarios students will encounter in the working world. My (one) ethics class was useless. But not political even with the redrawn ethical map of the Trump era.
- jayd16 1y ago
  Building systems that don't bake bias into code or worrying about privacy in a dating app is probably the kind of politics the parent is talking about. I'm not really sure how you could totally separate politics (forming laws) from ethics anyway.
  - tsumnia 1y ago
    I linked my lecture about how I see "ethics" as another term for "politics" in the academic sense. Other points to note: All AI will always have bias; a) because neural networks literally have a constant called 'bias' in them; and b) training a prediction algorithm means it is being trained to be bias and running a clustering algorithm means lumping commonly themed attributes together. If you mean "BIAS" as in "RACE/ETHNICITY/SOCIOECONOMIC_STATUS", then most groups already do this, state they do it, and still deal with the general public not believing them.
    - tsumnia 1y ago
      Reread my last sentence - allow me to rephrase it: If you mean "BIAS" as in avoiding "RACE/ETHNICITY/SOCIOECONOMIC_STATUS", most groups state they do not use them for decision making and still deal with the "general public" not believing them because results do not support their opinions.
- tsumnia 1y ago
  Feel free to review my Ethics in AI lecture: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBJRDxwbI9Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBJRDxwbI9Y This isn't a "Trump Era"/"Right Wing Talking Point" amigo, its the truth; also it's always been this way, listen to some punk rock. Is AI allowed to generate child pornography? Because that is currently being argued as protected by Free Speech in courts because no child was actually involved [1]. Sorry your ethics class was useless, I don't believe mine is. [1] https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/11/21/pennsylvania-parents-nude-photos-artificial-intelligence/76474857007/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/11/21/pennsy...

I've never seen this. Is this some weird right wing talking point? I have seen a disconnect between what is covered in ethics classes and the types of scenarios students will encounter in the working world. My (one) ethics class was useless. But not political even with the redrawn ethical map of the Trump era.

jayd16 1y ago
Building systems that don't bake bias into code or worrying about privacy in a dating app is probably the kind of politics the parent is talking about. I'm not really sure how you could totally separate politics (forming laws) from ethics anyway.
- tsumnia 1y ago
  I linked my lecture about how I see "ethics" as another term for "politics" in the academic sense. Other points to note: All AI will always have bias; a) because neural networks literally have a constant called 'bias' in them; and b) training a prediction algorithm means it is being trained to be bias and running a clustering algorithm means lumping commonly themed attributes together. If you mean "BIAS" as in "RACE/ETHNICITY/SOCIOECONOMIC_STATUS", then most groups already do this, state they do it, and still deal with the general public not believing them.
  - tsumnia 1y ago
    Reread my last sentence - allow me to rephrase it: If you mean "BIAS" as in avoiding "RACE/ETHNICITY/SOCIOECONOMIC_STATUS", most groups state they do not use them for decision making and still deal with the "general public" not believing them because results do not support their opinions.
tsumnia 1y ago
Feel free to review my Ethics in AI lecture: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBJRDxwbI9Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBJRDxwbI9Y This isn't a "Trump Era"/"Right Wing Talking Point" amigo, its the truth; also it's always been this way, listen to some punk rock. Is AI allowed to generate child pornography? Because that is currently being argued as protected by Free Speech in courts because no child was actually involved [1]. Sorry your ethics class was useless, I don't believe mine is. [1] https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/11/21/pennsylvania-parents-nude-photos-artificial-intelligence/76474857007/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/11/21/pennsy...