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Plenty of people throughout the world use Telegram. Their platform handles large groups quite well.

gregoriol 1y ago
It doesn't make sense for an open-source group making open-source projects and strongly promoting open-source to use such a tool for group chat. There are plenty of open-source alternatives or alternatives with no such negative association. edit: it looks even worse knowing that they have their own chat project: https://twake-chat.com https://twake-chat.com that is powered by the Matrix protocol
- easyKL 1y ago
  Projects like Valetudo, CoMaps, and Pixel Experience OS (to name a few) also rely on a Telegram group. Not everyone uses Matrix to build a community.
bl4ckneon 1y ago
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- Gigachad 1y ago
  Furries use it too
- Escapade5160 1y ago
  I use it over discord pretty frequently. The app UI is much simpler than discords and I've been able to get family to stick with using it because of that. Signal is my main way of communication, then telegram, then discord.
- hagbard_c 1y ago
  Nah, it is used by the likes of my 87yo mother who wouldn't recognise a crypto if it landed in a tree nearby and doesn't speak a word of Russian (she's Dutch). It is used by those who shun anything MetaFacebook and as such won't install Whatsapp. As such I have used it in the past but now mostly use my own XMPP server although I still have it installed on several devices to keep in touch with those who remain on the platform. I do know a few words of Russian but that is unrelated to my (mostly former) use of Telegram.
- seu 1y ago
  That definitely depends on where you are. In Germany it's quite common, and in other countries too.
- foul 1y ago
  In European nations who aren't English-first-language it's quite widespread around university students and people that outgrown Whatsapp, it isn't very much different than using a Discord groupchat (and you lose less important stuff in Telegram). Admittedly a bit is for network effect around "grindset" jocks but it isn't very much different than using discord or Meta messenger or Slack, just a freemium SaaS that the project doesn't support firsthand so if "our server" is down, "theirs" maybe is not. I say they are all the same although Telegram's insecurity is proven, they still are the same overall for a FOSS project.
  - gregoriol 1y ago
    It's not so much about security, as FOSS conversation groups would be open to anyone anyway, but it's not a good look for a project to use a tool that is known to be quite shady while there are FOSS tools, or simply tools with a better reputation. Also the project group seems to be french, not english-first-language, and Telegram is absolutely not well seen in France, not used by much more than a few percent
    - john_minsk 1y ago
      How is it shady? It beats WA on UI in most cases (especially on desktop), has open source client, much better groups/channels for one-to-many, many-to-many communications. Has bots support like I never seen on WA.
    - foul 1y ago
      If you say "shady" because CEO is a Russian in Dubai and for years nobody really knew how the hell could he sustain the company, yeah you're right. About the FOSS alternatives you're right, but to use a closed source SaaS is just a choice people make because they are not confident in their own infra. If it's "shady" because of cybercriminals, I insist in saying that it's the same than using Discord (pedophile rings) or Whatsapp/Meta messenger (extensive history of terrorists, gangs, traffickers of any kind).
- Jaxan 1y ago
  We used it as our family chat for many (10?) years. Only recently we moved to signal.
- exasperaited 1y ago
  Discord is unprofessional and tiresome if you ask me; I regret that many projects I admire don't see it that way.
- sureglymop 1y ago
  Russians is a bit narrow, but it is mostly the popular choice in eastern Europe. But when it comes to these messengers it differs based on location. There is KakaoChat in Korea, WeChat in China, Whatsapp in central Europe and South America, iMessage in the US, etc.

It doesn't make sense for an open-source group making open-source projects and strongly promoting open-source to use such a tool for group chat. There are plenty of open-source alternatives or alternatives with no such negative association. edit: it looks even worse knowing that they have their own chat project: https://twake-chat.com https://twake-chat.com that is powered by the Matrix protocol

easyKL 1y ago
Projects like Valetudo, CoMaps, and Pixel Experience OS (to name a few) also rely on a Telegram group. Not everyone uses Matrix to build a community.

bl4ckneon 1y ago

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Gigachad 1y ago
Furries use it too
Escapade5160 1y ago
I use it over discord pretty frequently. The app UI is much simpler than discords and I've been able to get family to stick with using it because of that. Signal is my main way of communication, then telegram, then discord.
hagbard_c 1y ago
Nah, it is used by the likes of my 87yo mother who wouldn't recognise a crypto if it landed in a tree nearby and doesn't speak a word of Russian (she's Dutch). It is used by those who shun anything MetaFacebook and as such won't install Whatsapp. As such I have used it in the past but now mostly use my own XMPP server although I still have it installed on several devices to keep in touch with those who remain on the platform. I do know a few words of Russian but that is unrelated to my (mostly former) use of Telegram.
seu 1y ago
That definitely depends on where you are. In Germany it's quite common, and in other countries too.
foul 1y ago
In European nations who aren't English-first-language it's quite widespread around university students and people that outgrown Whatsapp, it isn't very much different than using a Discord groupchat (and you lose less important stuff in Telegram). Admittedly a bit is for network effect around "grindset" jocks but it isn't very much different than using discord or Meta messenger or Slack, just a freemium SaaS that the project doesn't support firsthand so if "our server" is down, "theirs" maybe is not. I say they are all the same although Telegram's insecurity is proven, they still are the same overall for a FOSS project.
- gregoriol 1y ago
  It's not so much about security, as FOSS conversation groups would be open to anyone anyway, but it's not a good look for a project to use a tool that is known to be quite shady while there are FOSS tools, or simply tools with a better reputation. Also the project group seems to be french, not english-first-language, and Telegram is absolutely not well seen in France, not used by much more than a few percent
  - john_minsk 1y ago
    How is it shady? It beats WA on UI in most cases (especially on desktop), has open source client, much better groups/channels for one-to-many, many-to-many communications. Has bots support like I never seen on WA.
  - foul 1y ago
    If you say "shady" because CEO is a Russian in Dubai and for years nobody really knew how the hell could he sustain the company, yeah you're right. About the FOSS alternatives you're right, but to use a closed source SaaS is just a choice people make because they are not confident in their own infra. If it's "shady" because of cybercriminals, I insist in saying that it's the same than using Discord (pedophile rings) or Whatsapp/Meta messenger (extensive history of terrorists, gangs, traffickers of any kind).
Jaxan 1y ago
We used it as our family chat for many (10?) years. Only recently we moved to signal.
exasperaited 1y ago
Discord is unprofessional and tiresome if you ask me; I regret that many projects I admire don't see it that way.
sureglymop 1y ago
Russians is a bit narrow, but it is mostly the popular choice in eastern Europe. But when it comes to these messengers it differs based on location. There is KakaoChat in Korea, WeChat in China, Whatsapp in central Europe and South America, iMessage in the US, etc.