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As others have asked, how does it compare with nextCloud ownCloud? And does it have native clients for the usual suspects? Windows/Mac/Mobile...

kimos 1y ago
I desperately want to be a fan of ownCloud, because it offers clients natively across Mac/Linux/mobile, but it’s such a mess. Every platform has small bugs and reliability problems that makes the whole thing useless.
Liquix 1y ago
IME NextCloud is a bloated PHP monster with poor performance. Twake seems to be leaner and have a narrower scope.
- deleted 1y ago
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ponooqjoqo 1y ago
I tried to install nextcloud once, and it was an exercise in misery.
- vachina 1y ago
  If you just need a web interface to your filesystem, there’s this single Go executable (https://github.com/filebrowser/filebrowser https://github.com/filebrowser/filebrowser) that supports sharing and minimal user management.
  - pierrelf 1y ago
    +1 have deployed thousands of instances of filebrowser without any issues, hidden behind an oauth-proxy.
    - varun_ch 1y ago
      thousands...?
- aborsy 1y ago
  sudo snap install nextcloud That’s all! Auto updates and I can bet it will not break.
  - meonkeys 1y ago
    Is this a joke? There's lots more to hosting your own file share/sync tool than just standing it up.
    - aborsy 1y ago
      No, it was serious! He complained about the difficulty of installing an application. He didn’t complain about establishing a personal data center. That one line will give you the Nextcloud. Exactly one more line in snap will give you a self sign cert. Alternatively, the line below will give you remote access, a domain, and a valid certificate for your application: curl -fsSL https://tailscale.com/install.sh https://tailscale.com/install.sh | sh You will have a functioning personal Drive on a VPS or a computer at this point! Toggle snapshots on VPS for backups. Setting up services with public clouds also takes some steps.
      - wewtyflakes 1y ago
        It seems reasonable that someone would want to go beyond just installing software; they are presumably doing so in order to use it for its purpose. Being pedantic about the nature of the complaint (i.e. "He complained about the difficulty of installing an application. He didn’t complain about...") seems to miss the point. All of the additional steps you lay out also have their own steps to get done or decisions to be made, and when it is all said and done, it seems reasonable to imagine that things could get quite complicated.
        wobfan 1y ago
        I mean if you want a working Nextcloud instance, available through VPN with backups, then no, it doesn't get more complicated than that, actually. It is incredibly easy.
- Tade0 1y ago
  I couldn't get past installing required PHP extensions, as my hosting provider doesn't allow for that. Overall it's no WordPress instance that works everywhere.
- ndsipa_pomu 1y ago
  I've run a self-hosted Nextcloud instance for many years and Docker is by far the easiest. I started off with a native installation and that can be a pain when upgrading the OS (Ubuntu in my case). I tried the snap version when that became available and was impressed by how easy it was, though administering it required a bit of learning as the file locations where all different. Running it in Docker made it so much easier to administer (maybe add in the missing db indexes if there's a major version change). If you want, I can paste my docker-compose.yml for reference as it's relatively complex.
  - ponooqjoqo 1y ago
    The issue wasn't the Docker config, it was the web-based setup experience afterwards. If I messed up something minor, I'd have to blow away all the Docker containers and start fresh.

kimos 1y ago

I desperately want to be a fan of ownCloud, because it offers clients natively across Mac/Linux/mobile, but it’s such a mess. Every platform has small bugs and reliability problems that makes the whole thing useless.

Liquix 1y ago

IME NextCloud is a bloated PHP monster with poor performance. Twake seems to be leaner and have a narrower scope.

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ponooqjoqo 1y ago

I tried to install nextcloud once, and it was an exercise in misery.

vachina 1y ago
If you just need a web interface to your filesystem, there’s this single Go executable (https://github.com/filebrowser/filebrowser https://github.com/filebrowser/filebrowser) that supports sharing and minimal user management.
- pierrelf 1y ago
  +1 have deployed thousands of instances of filebrowser without any issues, hidden behind an oauth-proxy.
  - varun_ch 1y ago
    thousands...?
aborsy 1y ago
sudo snap install nextcloud That’s all! Auto updates and I can bet it will not break.
- meonkeys 1y ago
  Is this a joke? There's lots more to hosting your own file share/sync tool than just standing it up.
  - aborsy 1y ago
    No, it was serious! He complained about the difficulty of installing an application. He didn’t complain about establishing a personal data center. That one line will give you the Nextcloud. Exactly one more line in snap will give you a self sign cert. Alternatively, the line below will give you remote access, a domain, and a valid certificate for your application: curl -fsSL https://tailscale.com/install.sh https://tailscale.com/install.sh | sh You will have a functioning personal Drive on a VPS or a computer at this point! Toggle snapshots on VPS for backups. Setting up services with public clouds also takes some steps.
    - wewtyflakes 1y ago
      It seems reasonable that someone would want to go beyond just installing software; they are presumably doing so in order to use it for its purpose. Being pedantic about the nature of the complaint (i.e. "He complained about the difficulty of installing an application. He didn’t complain about...") seems to miss the point. All of the additional steps you lay out also have their own steps to get done or decisions to be made, and when it is all said and done, it seems reasonable to imagine that things could get quite complicated.
      - wobfan 1y ago
        I mean if you want a working Nextcloud instance, available through VPN with backups, then no, it doesn't get more complicated than that, actually. It is incredibly easy.
Tade0 1y ago
I couldn't get past installing required PHP extensions, as my hosting provider doesn't allow for that. Overall it's no WordPress instance that works everywhere.
ndsipa_pomu 1y ago
I've run a self-hosted Nextcloud instance for many years and Docker is by far the easiest. I started off with a native installation and that can be a pain when upgrading the OS (Ubuntu in my case). I tried the snap version when that became available and was impressed by how easy it was, though administering it required a bit of learning as the file locations where all different. Running it in Docker made it so much easier to administer (maybe add in the missing db indexes if there's a major version change). If you want, I can paste my docker-compose.yml for reference as it's relatively complex.
- ponooqjoqo 1y ago
  The issue wasn't the Docker config, it was the web-based setup experience afterwards. If I messed up something minor, I'd have to blow away all the Docker containers and start fresh.